Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Full Version)

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Anders Eliasson -> Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Mar. 11 2010 23:53:09)

So, I bought this capo a little while ago and have tested it both at home and in the Peña.

So far I can say that its the capo I have liked the best. Its light, easy to use, including with one hand, fast to move and have very little impact on the tuning and doesnt come in the way when doing "strange" chords. Also, its very gentle to French Polish.

The design, well it looks practical, but pretty as a cejilla... nope.

I use dunlops and trad cejilla as well. I like to have some capos around, I also had a Shubb. It works very well, but its very heavy and bulky.



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chapman_g -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Mar. 12 2010 2:29:55)

I agree it is the best for me, but nothing looks as great as the traditional cejilla. But this thing is good an inexpensive. I have one in every case.




XXX -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Mar. 12 2010 2:50:34)

I also have this. Regarding playing comfortability on certain chords i say dunlop is better because it is smaller. I mean the "height" above fretboard. It looks cool though and regarding tension on the neck, this mechanism is certainly the one with the least tension.




NeZ -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Mar. 12 2010 12:00:53)

I have one of these as well and it's definitely my favorite capo in terms of functionality and design.

I don't have any traditional Cejillas so I can't compare to that but I've used several different capos and like the planet waves best.

I really like how light it is and it's very easy to put it on and move it around.




GuitarVlog -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Mar. 12 2010 12:12:40)

I have two of those. [:)] Really like them.

The Planet Waves are my "casual" capos and my cejilla is my "dress" capo. [:D]




Harry -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 23 2011 19:18:37)

I just purchased one of these because Anders recommended them here, and I was very very skeptical.

But I must say, it is a very fun capo, very easy to use and it does not look too bad either! Still, the pros seem to use the Dunlop style capo exclusively, and for those I recommend the 15F I believe. Still, the Planet Waves is a sweet alternative since it does not move the strings around and gives great pressure over all 6 strings.




mrMagenta -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 23 2011 20:34:58)

I use one of these too. I've tried all sorts.. except a traditional cejilla. Might get me one of those some time, perhaps a nice one made by some handy forum member, but not to replace this one. I can't imagine how to improve on this one when it comes to everyday regular use. It's simple, fast, light, easy to use and doesn't detune the strings much when clamped (adjustable tension). It's not beautiful, but it's fairly discreet




edguerin -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Mar. 6 2011 7:55:59)

I just got the planet wave cejilla, and I'm very pleased with it (thanks Anders !).
How do you guys use it?

knob down (left pic) or knob up (right pic) ?
I tend to "knob down"



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rombsix -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Mar. 6 2011 8:31:44)

quote:

So far I can say that its the capo I have liked the best. Its light, easy to use, including with one hand, fast to move and have very little impact on the tuning and doesnt come in the way when doing "strange" chords. Also, its very gentle to French Polish.


Mates, this is the best capo in my opinion:

http://www.jimdunlop.com/product/classical-trigger-capos

I don't care about it looking like a work of art or not. It WORKS very well, and is truly a one-hand capo (no knobs, nothing to turn or clip, etc.). It provides no obstruction to the left hand, and it does NOT alter the tuning at all (within limits of normalcy of course). It's very light too, and quite durable.

Try it! [8D]




Joei.Guitar -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Apr. 17 2011 14:07:03)

I agree. The Dunlops 14F and 15F are smaller and a little better re playing comfort. They nylon strap is very adjustable.

Another slight downside of the PW NS Classical is that the little clasp for the back of the neck does not properly fit the thinner profiles on Flamencas as well as it does on classical guitar necks.

Clearly, nothing beats the looks of a nice cejilla!!

- J




TintoDV -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Apr. 29 2012 3:28:23)

Hello! I am new to the forum...a beginner with Flamenco study, but years playing Central and South American, and Caribbean music.
To "weigh in" if I may...the Planet Waves works great on my Yamaha (CG172SF) as well as a Takamine CS132S Classical....The adjustment control works like a charm to put just enough force on the strings, but not too much! I hope it will work with whatever I choose to upgrade from the Yamaha, which might have a slimmer neck...

Mark




pjn -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Jan. 29 2013 3:28:14)

Hi, may I ask who made your guitar -- is that an Anders?




el carbonero -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 1 2013 12:06:43)

i have one,it's good,but unfortunately,not for cejilla at first traste,on my two guitars ,the D string no good at the 1.
capo 1 is frequenly,so now i dont use this capo.




johnnefastis -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 1 2013 18:32:30)

Anyone know if there is a difference between the Dunlop 14F and 15F I
Can't believe how many models of these there are.

Cheers




pjn -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 1 2013 18:46:34)

Good question! and what about the "11" -- it looks exactly like the 14 on their web site. The 15 clearly has less "notches" to adjust the length.




britguy -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 3 2013 19:08:43)

quote:

I use dunlops and trad cejilla as well


I agree.

I think the traditional-style hand-made cejillas from Tony Arnold are the best I've ever used. And the nicest.

But the simple Dunlop adjustable toggle models are my favourites. Ultra light; dirt cheap, simple to use and completely reliable.

I have several of them lying around the house, and usually carry one around in my trouser pockets, briefcase; truck; etc. (Never know when you might need to grab a cejilla. . .)




HolyEvil -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 18 2013 11:56:47)

I bought this capo after reading good reviews on this thread, but I have a problem with it.

Even with the knob turn to the tightest, it is still loose on the neck on the first few frets, then it's not pressing down on the strings hard enough and it's causing buzzes and dull sounding strings..

anyone have any solution to this?

cheers




Leñador -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 18 2013 14:45:54)

quote:

But the simple Dunlop adjustable toggle models are my favourites. Ultra light; dirt cheap, simple to use and completely reliable.


That's what I'm talking about, why use anything else?




Erik van Goch -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 18 2013 16:24:53)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rombsix


Mates, this is the best capo in my opinion:

http://www.jimdunlop.com/product/classical-trigger-capos

It provides no obstruction to the left hand



Not even when doing Anders so called "strange" chords ?

like

--0-----
--1-----little finger
--1-----ring finger
--0-----
--1-----index
--1-----index

parts of my hand hops over to what you can call "zero position" (1 or even 2 positions left to 1th position) and at first sight i can't see myself doing that with that capo. Obviously i can alter the most natural hand position but that's what i consider to be obstruction of the left hand.




Sr. Martins -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 18 2013 17:11:58)

I love that strange chord so much that I mentally call it the "B flat mojo" [:D]




mark indigo -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 18 2013 23:11:51)

a Bb chord, no?

more precisely a Bb9#11?

spelling: 5, 1, 3, 7, 9, #11

not really so strange




Erik van Goch -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 19 2013 0:06:46)

quote:

ORIGINAL: mark indigo

a Bb chord, no?

more precisely a Bb9#11?

spelling: 5, 1, 3, 7, 9, #11



I might be wrong (and your question mark suggest your'e not sure as well) but what you choose to call 7 (suggesting an a-flat) to me feels more like an enharmonic g# (replacing the commonly played g in Bb/g and resolving to a in the next A chord, presuming we are dealing with a phrygian). Also the 11 seems to be a natural e to me (no need for the #). Although i like to see it as a Bb chord myself (5,1,3,#13?,9,11) my non flamenco moulded teacher of musical theory might even have called it G#13/F (7,3,5,1,11,13)

Personally i embrace the suggested "B flat mojo" :-)




guitarbuddha -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 19 2013 16:23:35)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Erik van Goch

quote:

ORIGINAL: mark indigo

a Bb chord, no?

more precisely a Bb9#11?

spelling: 5, 1, 3, 7, 9, #11



I might be wrong (and your question mark suggest your'e not sure as well) but what you choose to call 7 (suggesting an a-flat) to me feels more like an enharmonic g# (replacing the commonly played g in Bb/g and resolving to a in the next A chord, presuming we are dealing with a phrygian). Also the 11 seems to be a natural e to me (no need for the #). Although i like to see it as a Bb chord myself (5,1,3,#13?,9,11) my non flamenco moulded teacher of musical theory might even have called it G#13/F (7,3,5,1,11,13)

Personally i embrace the suggested "B flat mojo" :-)


Fifth in the bass and tonic and major third/seventh shell will almost always sound like a seventh chord unless the voice leading really strongly suggests something else. Bb alt would suit me.

Eleventh is named with respect to the assumed root if that is Bb then that would be Eb, since the chord has a fifth(F natural) the E natural would be considered an augmented eleventh.

I don't really see this chord resolving readily to C# major or minor in a flamenco palo so I would tend to avoid calling it any kind of G#.

A really extended chord like this would cry out for a more extended chord to resolve to so I would be inclined to allow a seventh in the A phrygian tonic, dispelling the illusion that the Ab was a G#.

It could be considered to be a Dminor seven flat five add nine in first inversion or an Ealt/F. But really its pretty much gonna go to A.

Mind you I dont have any objection to Bb mojo, but then I'm not a horn player.

D.




HolyEvil -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 20 2013 23:39:04)

I'm trying to stop the Dunlop capo from tarnishing the french polish by this method.



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Sr. Martins -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 20 2013 23:50:24)

Well... Iam the guy who almost every time hears x-x-3-3-3-1 as a Dm6 so if the "Bb mojo" isnt working that way for you, I can relate to that feeling [8D]




rombsix -> RE: Planet Waves NS Classical Guitar Capo PW-CP-04 (Feb. 21 2013 0:14:39)

quote:

Not even when doing Anders so called "strange" chords ?

like

--0-----
--1-----little finger
--1-----ring finger
--0-----
--1-----index
--1-----index

parts of my hand hops over to what you can call "zero position" (1 or even 2 positions left to 1th position) and at first sight i can't see myself doing that with that capo. Obviously i can alter the most natural hand position but that's what i consider to be obstruction of the left hand.


Get the capo & try it. To me, doing such a chord with this capo is very easy. I fret it with my middle finger on the 6th & 5th strings, and the rest the same as you, but even if you fret it your way (which I've done), it's very easy still with this capo.

Trust me...




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