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KMMI77 -> Man and the future (Mar. 11 2010 20:08:46)

Over the last few years i have enjoyed watching thousands of videos on you tube. Aside from Flamenco videos I am fascinated by alternative ideas, Science and even conspiracies. With the wide variety of information, opinions and ideas we now have access to, I think we are living in an exciting time. Although, rapidly advancing modern technology is revealing as many problems as it is solutions.

I am fascinated but not surprised by the fact that the most subscribed reporter in the UK is the channel NUFFFRESPECT. His videos are all conspiracy related. Topics such as 911 conspiracies, chemtrails, The new world order etc... are all covered. There is a similar channel in australia that is sitting at number 2 most subscribed.

Although sometimes enlightening and interesting, i find many of these conspiracy
videos concentrate on problems but rarely offer any thought through solutions and alternatives.

Anyway, Here is a guy who has spent his life looking deeply into the problems we face. Whether or not his system would work is obviously debatable but at least he is offering some kind of alternative design for the future. A far more in depth look at the world than our governments are providing. The video is an overview of his ideas from russia today.



http://www.thevenusproject.com/



Ricardo -> RE: Man and the future (Mar. 12 2010 6:55:39)

How is his concept "new" exactly? People are too greedy for this to ever work unless they are tightly controlled somehow....which goes against what the idea is about. You can't have anarchy and equality, unless you have some sort of clone race of humans who all have equal desires, no more or no less then others around him/her. Needs are different...and what is the difference? Food, air, that's it? I can personally say I "need" music, and I dont' think I have been conditioned that way.

No money system, all get equal resources and are expected to do equal work? How can you "police" that with no police? Brainwashing kids to think they MUST do it? Even brainwashed nazis, scientologist, devoted religious followers, etc etc, have the dissenters who go against the grain. How can the Venusians deal those individuals?

anyway, etc etc etc,.... all he is doing is grinding his axe with religion, politics, world government, etc same old song.



KMMI77 -> RE: Man and the future (Mar. 12 2010 7:17:25)

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How is his concept "new" exactly?


I am not sure where i said this concept was new? Did you watch all the parts? There are other interviews online that allow questions from an audience. People ask similar questions to yours. There is also a FAQ sections on the web site.



Ricardo -> RE: Man and the future (Mar. 12 2010 15:04:57)

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ORIGINAL: KMMI77

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How is his concept "new" exactly?


I am not sure where i said this concept was new? Did you watch all the parts? There are other interviews online that allow questions from an audience. People ask similar questions to yours. There is also a FAQ sections on the web site.


Well, you said he was offering solutions, and since one would think the solutions of the past have not worked, the implication is this is a "new" concept.

I only watched the 2 imbeded vids you showed earlier (now only one is there). I dont' have time to go searching, if you think any of my points were covered by him, share a link and tell me the times in the video he might address these or similar concepts and I will be happy to watch.

Ricardo



KMMI77 -> RE: Man and the future (Mar. 12 2010 15:41:48)

Hey Ricardo!

Yes, i removed the second video and replaced it with a link to the website instead. That way people who find this interesting can look further into his ideas if they wish. Not much point in watching the second video without looking at all the info. If you click on the introduction column on the website,you will see the link to FAQ. You may or may not find the information informative.

I personally like many of his ideas. With such a large group of people from different backgrounds and cultures here on the foro, I thought this would make an interesting discussion. I have no intention of telling people that this is what we should do or this information is correct, or the best. I do however feel frustrated that a lot of this type of information is ignored or pushed aside and labelled ridiculous etc..



XXX -> RE: Man and the future (Mar. 12 2010 16:53:10)

Upon the proposal to get rid of the money system, the average people from nowadays would ask: "and how do we finance this?"

The basic rule i have learned is: people dont want change. Or rather, they want the changes to TAKE PLACE but they arent going to be involved in the process. They want somebody to have the might to rule over them, covering their particular interests, without them having to change anything in THEIR lives.

Not going to say too much, but my claim is, people reflect to their circumstances as nature given. This system simply does not work for the vast majority of people on earth. One doesnt have to be Einstein to see this. It is not a lack of goodwill, or too much greediness. It is like trying to work with a machine that has failures. The failures are a part of the machine, but not a part of you. Difference to the real world is, you have to adapt to the world in order to survive, cover basic needs. Need to get money to get food, need to work to get money etc etc the whole circle of average normal everyday-life. So long as people dont learn to think in a more greater scale than just "sleep, eat, work, money, sleep,..." nothing will change.



KMMI77 -> RE: Man and the future (Mar. 12 2010 17:52:44)

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The basic rule i have learned is: people dont want change. Or rather, they want the changes to TAKE PLACE but they arent going to be involved in the process. They want somebody to have the might to rule over them, covering their particular interests, without them having to change anything in THEIR lives.


I honestly don't know anyone who would give this as a response to what they want. I understand where you are coming from though.



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