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estebanana -> RE: GAL Reyes plan (Feb. 28 2010 17:41:41)

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Yes, there is a way to build flamenco guitars with sustain but as a underlying frequency that accentuates the notes being played, not with a lot of surface noise, but as a quick attack; immediate sound with a mournful inner support of lower frequencies in the actual sustain. To achieve this takes a lot of middle register relief without sacrificing the guitar's sharp outer edge; basically maintaining a more open inner voice with different colors and keeping its tight edge.

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Jason knows that stuff too. I'm a lot less verbal about how to expain it than both a yous guys.

It's exactly as you say Tom, the overtone supports the fundamental string sound. If you play the fundamental note and the guitar sounds like Nino Ricardo is inside the guitar playing the higher up partials of the same note with you, then it's right. :)

I had a scientist freind isolate the Nino Ricardo gene and we introduced it into a forest of trees. We're hoping the human DNA will adapt to live in the mitocondria cells of the trees. Look for our paper in the journal Nature in 15 years.




Tom Blackshear -> RE: GAL Reyes plan (Feb. 28 2010 19:53:05)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

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I have checked out Reyes models since 1976 and I find that no two seem to be exactly alike, perhaps due to Don Manuel's prolific style of research and development.


I think he just gets bored building it the same way every time. I'll see if I can borrow the 1969 Reyes for a few days and take sum pitchers ob it.


Very good! I'm waiting for the outcome. Most builders, including yours truly, always experiment with their work, and it sometimes pay off royally well. I don't think this ever stops.




Tom Blackshear -> RE: GAL Reyes plan (Feb. 28 2010 20:11:28)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

quote:

Yes, there is a way to build flamenco guitars with sustain but as a underlying frequency that accentuates the notes being played, not with a lot of surface noise, but as a quick attack; immediate sound with a mournful inner support of lower frequencies in the actual sustain. To achieve this takes a lot of middle register relief without sacrificing the guitar's sharp outer edge; basically maintaining a more open inner voice with different colors and keeping its tight edge.

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Jason knows that stuff too. I'm a lot less verbal about how to expain it than both a yous guys.

It's exactly as you say Tom, the overtone supports the fundamental string sound. If you play the fundamental note and the guitar sounds like Nino Ricardo is inside the guitar playing the higher up partials of the same note with you, then it's right. :)

I had a scientist freind isolate the Nino Ricardo gene and we introduced it into a forest of trees. We're hoping the human DNA will adapt to live in the mitocondria cells of the trees. Look for our paper in the journal Nature in 15 years.


The trick is too move the sound in such a direction that it spells these things out. I've published some of this with the Reyes style plan to get builders started in a direction for certain tonal quality.

Sometimes its just a matter of slight tweaking of the tone to make it sound like Nino Ricardo's guitar. I'm seriously thinking of doing this with a similar 1955 Sobrinos de Esteso model like he played for many years. If it turns out, then I'll share what I find out about it.

I understand that you are joking about the DNA but don't be fooled into thinking its impossible to achieve.

Eugene Clark and I are old friends and he respects my knowledge about certain issues, as I respect his. And hopefully neither one of us will grow to an age that we lose our perspective about our differences in building.

I can experiment as I like, due to my other investments but I always make sure the experiment goes right or it doesn't leave the shop. Most builders are this way, as it should be.




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