Ricardo -> RE: Classical Guitar for the Flamenco Guitarist (Feb. 8 2010 14:17:24)
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ORIGINAL: Stoney I suppose my main interest is to learn to read music really well and then get out. I find myself in a position that aside from a few technique difficulties, my main area of distress is inventing and adapting falsetas. I come up with something and I'm not sure if it is in compas or not. Being able to break it down 100% via note value etc. etc. would fix that problem. As far as technique is concerned, I just don't see classical getting in the way of Flamenco, I could however see Flamenco getting in the way of classical as in overpowering it. I occassionally run through Romance d'amor and I just have to throw in a rasgueado at the end. Anyway, thanks for the opinions. Stoney Just want to point out stoney, since you have started posting here, you have a tendency to ask a good question, get a bunch of similar line answers, don's seem to like them and want to argue a little about it. Just an observation. 2 things. 1. Classical guitar method does not necessarily teach you to read WELL. Most of the time, unless in an ensemble, you end up working through a piece and going through the positions and fingerings slow. I recommend if you want to read, and this might help your flamenco better, is to find a jazz teacher and work on reading with him. REASON is there will be an emphasis on reading AND keeping time, and feeling what you read rather then just finding the notes, plus, you will get a focus on chords and scales, and how they fit together. Again you won't get that with a classical guitar teacher. Also, the jazz teacher won't care your flamenco technique or whatever method you use to play a chord or notes you are sight reading, and may think it "cool" you do it that way. He may get you start reading in the middle of the fingerboard too so you get more understanding how the fretboard is laid out, vs open position scales and such. Classical guitar teacher of any repute will not let you get away with making "flamenco sounds" when trying to interpret a classical piece, or even just an exercise, no matter how beginner level (and especially if it is lower level). Deliberately avoiding making "flamenco sounding" strokes will affect your playing for sure. 2. Your problem with adapting falsetas, and compas, is also a rhythm problem, not to be fixed with a classical teacher. Again, perhaps a jazz teacher will get your rhythm going, and ablity to both read and improvise, and this in tern helps your creativity and ability to compose, since improvising is composing on the fly. However, a warning is that your concept of composing flamenco and adapting your own "falsetas" of your own make is not good. That is not the way to go about progressing in flamenco (unless you want to end up on Jason's fakemenco list, then go ahead). You need to first get grounded in the traditional rhythms and falsetas, at least SOME of them that are from the masters, so you understand even HOW to compose in the style. That will take some time, and in this regard, both the classical and a jazz teacher will not be helping you. Flamenco improvisation is NOT like jazz improvisation at all. Ricardo
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