Ramon Amira -> RE: Pepe Habichuela's rasgueado? (Jan. 17 2010 7:58:07)
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TO DENIZ - "Prom, to update your knowledge on rasgeos please go to Nunez DVD!" Thanks for the advice, but I have no need to "update" my knowledge of rasgueado. As I said, I play numerous different rasgueados. Since we have a finite number of fingers available (5), and a finite number of directions with which to use them (2), then there is a finite number of combinations that can be employed, and even fewer that can be employed to any reasonable effect. I have studied and tried every reasonably possible combination, and use many of them, so there is nothing to be updated. TO AT_LEO_87 - "the body comes from the strength of each individual stroke, imo. not from mushing in four + strokes into a beat." Four strokes to a beat is not "mushing" anything in, quite to the contrary, only three strokes to a beat is spacing it out, making it far too sparse. I defy anyone to play a palo that normally goes at a slower tempo, say Soleares, and use three strokes to a beat in the typical Soleares rasgueado passage that goes F7th on beats one, two, and three, then C on beats four, five, and six, etc. No matter how strong you make each individual stroke, they would be spaced so far apart that it would sound ridiculous. quote: starting a rasgueado with a finger upstroke is exactly the weakest way to start a rasgueado. AT LEO - "if you have a weak upstroke, it is." No – an upstroke is by nature a weaker stroke. My upstroke is plenty strong, as are other players', but no matter how strong anyone gets it, it is never as strong as that same player's downstroke. quote: Any rasgueado should start with a downstroke. AT LEO - " no" Yes. Quote: using I and the weak A is positively dreadful. AT LEO - "if you have a weak A then it's more reason to practice i,a,i." I don't have a "weak A." What I said was "the weak A finger." Are you trying to say that A is a strong finger? Is your A finger as strong as your other fingers? It was a comment in general – A is the weakest finger, therefore I referred to it as "the weak A finger," which is exactly what it is. As with the upstroke, no matter how strong you get the A finger, it is anatomically relatively weaker than the other fingers. quote: And to teach that to beginners just strikes me as a terrible idea. AT LEO - "imo, teaching people to avoid certain rasgueados would be limiting and counter productive. one should learn all the different rasgueados they can. for instance, in tangos, i used to do ami, but now i play, i up, a down, i down and it sounds so much more groovy. if i had the same prejudice as you, i wouldn't have discovered that." It is not "prejudice" to suggest that it's a terrible idea to teach a beginner a terrible rasgueado. A three stoke to the beat with I and A is not only terrible in general, it is also more difficult for a beginner to execute than other rasgueados. So why on earth would anyone suggest teaching that to beginners, who, as it is, frequently struggle with even easier rasgueados. There is time later for beginners to experiment with various different rasgueados. AT LEO - "prom, you should try a up, i up, a down, i down. i have a feeling it'll give you nightmares. lol." Just reading it would give anyone a nightmare, let alone playing it. Which is exactly my point. Since there are many other combinations available, why go out of your way to find an awful one. I think if we had a humorous "Try to create the worst possible rasgueado" contest, then a three stroke with I and A would take first prize.
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