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Kate -> London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 13 2004 10:44:45)

I was just looking at what work there is in London and dreaming about earning money (hard to do in Andalucia) and this caught my eye , for a Spanish guitarist, so thought I'd post it here.


http://www.londonjobs.co.uk/finn/job/object?id=3490834&sid=030192510691862&pos=3&rub=18

Kate




Ron.M -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 13 2004 11:59:43)

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and dreaming about earning money (hard to do in Andalucia)


Kate,
Just for some extra income, couldn't you put together a Flamenco workshop in Granada offering say, a week/two week all-in package for Dance and Guitar (also Flamenco Compás and Percussion)?
Could just be a beginner's introduction to Flamenco to start off with.
Keep it running throughout the summer months.
You could get together with a local Restaurant and a Hotel or Pension, and include things like general sightseeing, flamenco shows, classes in Spanish (with the emphasis on Andaluz Spanish). Even a quick tour round the studio for those interested in recording.
Then there are the guitar shops, records etc etc.


Just a thought

Ron




Billyboy -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 14 2004 3:58:26)

Anyone know how much they were paying
Cheers
Dave




Kate -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 14 2004 18:34:06)

Hi Ron,

All good ideas and I do a bit of this, find people classes and location scout for photographers. To build it into a money maker would take quite a lot of work , time and dedication, and there's quite a bit of long established competition and I guess I just need a quick financial fix :) so I can concentrate building up the studio business, record company, and tour promoting, which is why I was looking at work in London. Starting a new business anywhere is a long slog, but doing it in a foreign country is harder and add the fact we are talking flamenco, well I came to the conclusion long while back I must be mad.

Still we have a meeting tomorrow about funding for the record label, and at least we have our first record ( not counting the Taller de Compás kids) which continues selling and getting interest. An articles appeared this week in a German online magazine http://www.ole-flamenco.com/Magazin/magazin.htm ( for those who read German) and also in a Spanish magazine for English speakers called 'The Broadsheet' ( on sale in Spain only but I'll see if I can scan it and get it on our webpage) and Emilio is getting lots of radio play and the title track ( the minera 'Temple') is being used for a bullfighting TV programme every week. I've seen bulfighters with tears in their eyes listening to this track.

So anyway we are hanging in here. I just sometimes dream of a salary ;)

Kate




Ron.M -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 14 2004 20:30:25)

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well I came to the conclusion long while back I must be mad.


Well Kate, I suppose a person seeking a bank business loan based on breeding N.African Hairy-Footed Gerboas, may have the edge on any Flamenco based project. LOL!

Thing is, we can all think of good business plans, but if that's not what you want to do with your life then they are worthless.
Making money is a necessity in life, but sometimes folk are mistakenly led to believe in making money as a goal.
The fashion in oil-rich Aberdeen used to be cars, house extensions, conservatories and very expensive exotic holidays.
Now the latest fashion (so I'm told) is to brag about how much money you lost in the Casino last night.
Yet the same folk have huge mortgages, credit cards with £20,000+ owing on them, expensive cars bought on HP and countless store cards, so they can keep up with the latest styles.
What these guys do is take their present income, anticipate future pay rises and then multiply it by their expected working years as if it's going to go on forever, looking at the total sum as their present net worth!
I've lived here for a good while now, and regulary see that it only takes one slump in the Oil price to see all the redundancies and all the insolvencies, marriage breakups and misery that follows.
Here today, gone tomorrow.
They'd be far better buying a guitar and taking on the challenges that has to offer.
Or just doing something their heart tells them to do.
Much more rewarding IMO!

cheers

Ron




El Craic -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 16 2004 21:21:56)

Mmmm London. The damp climate, the crime the ridiculous cost of living, the commuting...

Ah Belfast... well, at least there's good Guinness here. (And comparatively good dentists, according to Sean. Kate if you ever need a dentist you are very welcome in Belfast).




Ron.M -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 16 2004 21:39:05)

Hey Emma,
Do they still have NHS Dentists in Belfast?
They certainly don't here.
Private only. No Dentist takes on NHS patients now.
I haven't been to a Dentist in over three years now after falling out with my own NHS Practicioner, who treated everybody like they were idiots and bossed patients around as if they were cattle. (Her father was a Farmer actually, a well known money grabber and miser in the community).
I finally got tired of being treated like a 5 year old and told her where to go.
So I got struck off! LOL!
Great this NHS de-regulation stuff.
Gives folk so much choice.

cheers

Ron




Miguel de Maria -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 17 2004 2:10:37)

So what's it like over there, do you guys have a universal health care system? You may know we tried to get one over here but the conservative types shot it down...




Jamey -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 17 2004 4:19:50)

Hey Kate, hang in there. Running your own business is a tough deal. I've been running my own company for 5 years now. It's been a real rollercoaster of a ride. I foolishly started a technology based company right at the apex of the "dot bomb" here in N. America. Yeah, probably not my most shining moment [:)]

A salary....I'm not even sure what that is. Though when you run your on deal, there are other ways to take money out without it being subject to taxation. Anyway, you likely already know all about the ups and downs.

Do it so long as it is fulfilling and doesn't turn into a crushing albatros wrought with anxiety (like my bloody company).

Do like the cowboys in Alberta do here in Canada, stay loose, stay centered. And if you get bucked, dust yourself off and walk away with your head up.




Ron.M -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 17 2004 8:22:27)

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So what's it like over there, do you guys have a universal health care system?


Sort of, Mike. Up to the 80's there was an excellent National Health Service with free access to all, being funded from taxation. Now there is a mixture of Public and Private healthcare where folk have priority to services and is funded from private insurance schemes paid for by the individual or as a company "perk".
The big change IMO, has generally been "attitude" to healthcare, where young Doctors/Dentists etc see entering the profession as a lucrative business to be run along the same lines as any money making enterprise. Probably very much like in the States.

cheers

Ron




El Craic -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 17 2004 12:24:10)

Hey Ron I'm not going to bore everyone talking about healthcare. There are NHS dentists here still but I'm carefully preserving my 'English teeth'.




Kate -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 17 2004 12:58:12)

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ORIGINAL: Jamey
Do like the cowboys in Alberta do here in Canada, stay loose, stay centered. And if you get bucked, dust yourself off and walk away with your head up.



Great advice Jamey. I've taken one or two tumbles so far but it's one hell of a ride and apart from being stoney broke am having the time of my life. The worst is all the paperwork and a slow Spanish system where all important meetings take place in bars, also Spanish business ( like bars) is a very male domain. Then again, I always get offered a seat, lighters jump to attention when I get out a ciggarette, oh and someone else always pays the bill.

Kate




Jon Boyes -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 20 2004 9:22:44)

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ORIGINAL: El Craic
Ah Belfast... well, at least there's good Guinness here. (And comparatively good dentists, according to Sean.


..and might I add, some fine 'chip cheese and mushroom', over the road from Lavery's [;)].

Jon




El Craic -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 20 2004 12:18:08)

Jesus.




El Craic -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 20 2004 12:20:39)

When were u here Jon? :-)




Jon Boyes -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 20 2004 12:42:49)

I visited several times in the early nineties, Emma. At least I think it was the early nineties - most of my time was spent in the Crown and Laverys, and you know what THAT means..

I used to go out with a girl from Dungannon, and hung out with her and her mates from Belfast. They were all at Queens at the time.

Happy times, definitely, good Craic [:)]

Jon




El Craic -> RE: London job for spanish guitarist (Sep. 20 2004 13:13:35)

Well, it's changed a lot. Everyone's younger for a start...

Lots of regeneration, some of it is working some of it isn't.

Dungannon's a funny old place, no offence. If it isn't a city, at the foot of a mountain or by the sea, then I don't get it.




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