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minordjango -> m granados book 2 RH rasquado (Sep. 28 2009 11:30:16)

hi folks ,

just been tring to get the hang of P C I rolls(thumb , little finger and index) it really hard , anyone have any good suggestions as other options yet still retaining the aire ??

cheers



michel -> RE: m granados book 2 RH rasquado (Dec. 11 2009 5:09:06)

hi minordjando

i have the same problem, it's so difficult to play a simple p - c - i abanico,
because it has a slow feeling, playing in sixteens or doubletime is easier, it has more punch.
two alternatives:
- p-c-i are not in a fixed position, each finger moves over the strings in a
separate movement, i start in this way, more chance to control the internal
rythm of the rasgueo

- p-c-i are spread and in a fixed position
well this is tricky and needs practice, it's hard to correct something during the
execution in this position, you have to find a position that allows you to play all
strings relaxed only by moving the wrist, you'll have a dynamic punchy rasgueo

You can start with the first alternative and accelerate more and more until you don't have to move the fingers, then stop and remember the position of the right hand, and do it again, slowly with fixed position.

i think my english really sucks for native speakers, i'm really sorry guys.
peace



mark indigo -> RE: m granados book 2 RH rasquado (Dec. 11 2009 5:44:35)

use pai instead of pci

can you do p ma p?

and/or aii?

if not, learn both of these and pai is easy!

another tip, make sure you index comes into your palm as your a or c flicks out

don't understand michel's post about fixed position.... i think you have to move your fingers and your wrist....

i did once watch an instructional video where the teacher said to do it a certain way, and when you slowed the film down you could see he was doing exactly what he had just said not to do.... so written/verbal instructions are often the teacher's poetry for describing their experience of what they do, and not necessarily actually what you see them doing....



michel -> RE: m granados book 2 RH rasquado (Dec. 11 2009 6:12:53)

hi mark
i didn't mean absolutely fixed, i meant a position where the fingers stay in a stretched position like a trident. using p ma p / p a i is easier, agreed



mark indigo -> RE: m granados book 2 RH rasquado (Dec. 12 2009 2:07:52)

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a position where the fingers stay in a stretched position like a trident


this sounds a bit odd to me, i don't see how or why you could or would use it, i think you will have to move the fingers, so practising with them fixed will not help - but maybe i misunderstand?

quote:

using p ma p / p a i is easier


not just easier, i think more typical too....

the point i was trying to make about pmp (or p ma p) was that you more or less have to use the wrist, so if you can already do that, and if you can also do aii then you can move the fingers too, so then put them together to move the wrist and fingers for pai

if you really want to do pci you could practise the finger movements, cii (c down, i down, i up), try starting on different fingers, ici (lol!) (i up, c down, i down) and iic too

combine this with the wrist movement from p m/a p and you will have it!



Ricardo -> RE: m granados book 2 RH rasquado (Dec. 13 2009 7:56:10)

Try it by reinforcing c with a finger beside it, as if together they are one fat finger. p-ac-i,p-ac-i etc. AFter a while you build the strength speed and momentum, you can leave off the a finger. And leaving off the c finger gives you p-a-i which is quite common too.



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