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Escribano -> RE: Bulerias remates in Jerez (Jul. 8 2004 19:42:33)

Interesting and confusing, I like the story about the father of Richard Feynman (Feynman won a Nobel prize for Physics and is a particular hero of mine):

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To know the name of a bird is not to understand it




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Escribano -> RE: Bulerias remates in Jerez (Jul. 9 2004 8:32:45)

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I have MP3s of a bunch of the Feymann lectures on physics if you are interested.

Cool, how can I get them? You have a FTP site?




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Jamey -> RE: Bulerias remates in Jerez (Jul. 9 2004 21:34:40)

If it isn't too much trouble....I'd be interested too. Feynman is a hero of mine. One of his best displays of "gentle brilliance" was when he confounded the NASA spin doctors at the first shuttle disaster inquiry and simply put a piece of one of the 'O' rings in a glass of ice water and squished it with a clamp to explain to the masses what actually went wrong. He completely cut through the techno-babble.




zata -> RE: Bulerias remates in Jerez (Jul. 10 2004 8:54:57)

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However, I know another professional dancer from Jerez who insists that there are NO llamadas in bulerias, because the dancer never calls the singer in - it happens the other way around.


Nobody calls anybody in bulerĂ­as except in a classroom where a teacher is trying to give some framework to what looks like a bewildering morass. Forty years ago Mariquita Flores was teaching never to do a desplante while the singer is singing, but in real life that's the preferred place to do them, and Mariquita clearly knows this...but how can you tell people "just listen for the right place"?

As far as terminology, even one given person will use all the terms interchangeably...not as universally accepted labels to be found in glossaries, but as normal words, like "close out here", "do an ending there", "wrap it up", so just take them all as meaning the same thing, because they essentially do. There's little use for the terms outside of a classroom, since these are not things normally discussed at all.

There did used to be a llamada in bulerĂ­as, specifically for "calling" the singer to sing, or another dancer to come out...this was used in theatrical shows to make an orderly 'fin de fiesta'...but I haven't seen it in years.

Estela 'Zata'




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