duwen -> RE: What is Flamenco? (Mar. 30 2009 5:04:19)
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That conjures in my mind the beauty of self expression, and co operation that is the meeting of peoples who come together to convey in a certain way, and that is what you have got to choose, wether it is painting, poetry, or the flamenco. If you have a heart inside you know what I am reasoning. The form is the flamenco, and we are all living out our lives and thoughts and emotions, and what do you get? Sorry Florian, I clicked reply to yours but for some reason Gato's quotes showed. This is not a mistake though because i really want to say how beautiful I find your comments gato. You say what I really feel. About music per se when it has duende there are no boundaries. I rarely like some musicians who claim their music is better than another form. There should never be boundaries in music-------------yes forms of course, but there are myriad influences and so on as well. But music so much connects us. IS so understood by peoples and animals alike! Florian, I have tried to find that other thread about the question I am asking here, do you know what month--about--it was released? I still hope you wax lyrical about your feeling about what flamenco is As for me.......From first hearing flamenco as a child thanks to my mum, it has this power that makes you shiver. And I used to try and do the dance moves and do rythym with heels[:D]--and I wanted to be a dancer and even left home at 15 for this purpose to the big city---whereupon i was turned onto LSD, and because i was this uyoung kid right in heart of tail end of Hippy/Head scene --and became disillusioned with the form of dance being taught me--Jazz Merican, where the others seemed to be double jointed, and the pressures of having to support myself-------------all the temptations OMG, my dance classes waned and I entered the mysterious explorations of psychedelia Regrets?.................What happens happens you cant undo it. I am still a dancer. When your a dancer your a dancer. End of. I also love singing too I had this friend some years back who had young kids, and when I toked I would have session in her chill out room. Floor cushions , guitars. And I would like to sing and the kids would hear me. I thought i was singing like Blues...Gospelly, which I also love. And one time I brought a CD to let my friend listen, it is called, Cante Gitano: Gypsy Flamenco from Andalucia, featuring Jose de la Tomasa, Maria la Burra, Maria Solea, Paco del Gastor and Juan del Gastor , an amazing CD Anyway when her kids heard it they said I sounded like that....LOL, I was really complimented!![:D] I have a book called Psychedelic Reader, and it has articles by all the powerful personalities of that era. There is one very interesting article which talks about duende~~a term I now know very familiar with flamenco traditions. Anyway it says that in Mazatec tradition, there is a sacred term, 'duendes' : "In the accounts of the visions that the Indians see after they consume the sacred food--whether seeds or mushrooms or plant--there frequently figure hombbrecitos, 'little men', mujercitas 'little women', duendes 'supernatural dwarves'. beginning with our maiden at her metate ['grinding stone' where she grinds up sacred mushrooms] , here is a fascinating complex of associations that calls for further study and elaboration." So is there a connection between that Mazatec term (the Mazatec people were 'discovered' in 1950s by Gordan Wasson --internationally-- and found to secretly carry on a very old sacred mushroom religion) 'duendes' and the Gypsy flamenco term duende? I am very much loving Frederico Lorca's poetry art, full of the duende, and of course therfore he mentions very much about duende! "Whoever inhabits that bull's hide stretched between the Jucar, the Gaudelete, the Sil or the Pisuerga - no need to mention the streams joining those lion-coloured waves churned up by the Plata - has heard it said with a certain frequency: "Now that has real duende !" It was in this spirit that Manuel Torres, the great artist of the Andalusian people, once remarked to a singer: "You have a voice, you know all the styles, but you'll never bring it off because you have no duende." In all Andalusia, from the rock of Jaen to the shell of Cádiz, people constantly speak of the duende and find it in everything that springs out of energetic instinct. That marvelous singer, "El Librijano," originator of the Debla, observed, "Whenever I am singing with duende, no one can come up to me"; and one day the old gypsy dancer, "La Malena," exclaimed while listening to Brailowski play a fragment of Bach: "Olé! That has duende !"- and remained bored by Gluck and Brahms and Darius Milhaud. And Manuel Torres, to my mind a man of exemplary blood culture, once uttered this splendid phrase while listening to Falla himself play his "Nocturno del Generalife": "Whatever has black sounds has duende." There is no greater truth. These black sounds are the mystery, the roots that probe through the mire that we all know of, and do not understand, but which furnishes us with whatever is sustaining in art. Black sounds: so said the celebrated Spaniard, thereby concurring with Goethe, who, in effect, defined the duende when he said, speaking of Paganini: "A mysterious power that all may feel and no philosophy can explain." The duende, then, is a power and not a construct, is a struggle and not a concept. I have heard an old guitarist, a true virtuoso, remark, "The duende is not in the throat, the duende comes up from inside, up from the very soles of the feet." That is to say, it is not a question of aptitude, but of a true and viable style - of blood, in other words; of what is oldest in culture: of creation made act. " http://www.musicpsyche.org/Lorca-Duende.htm
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