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XXX

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

There is a nail hardener "Rival de loop". Its only 6ml but i use it since TWO YEARS and its only a little bit under half full. Its water thin and dries maybe in 5 to 10 minutes. It goes off fast but you can apply it easily again. I only do the fingertips, maybe one time every 3 classes/sessions or so. It costs 2€. Suave.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2008 0:56:43

itoprover

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

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ORIGINAL: leonaro

We have a really good artificial fingernail for classical and flamenco guitarist.
We are: http://www.guitarplayernails.com/

I am gonna give it a try just to see if it works for me. Just made an order. I'll let you guys know how it is...

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 25 2008 12:51:15

Kate

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to itoprover)

Hey you got a sale !! Here the flamencos just go to the Todo 100 shop and buy a kit for about a euro. How much are your nails Leonaro?

I find it a bit odd that actually kept quiet about this nail for the past four years considering how often all the guitarists here go on about their nails

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2008 3:15:26

leonaro

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to Kate)

Well we haven't kept too quiet. We have over two thousand guitarists using our nails now. We advertise in a few guitar magazines, and word of mouth. How much are they? We have a kit that includes: enough Instant Nail to make approx. 30 to 40 fingernails, 1 bottle of Bond Tite high strength super glue, fiberglass wrap, 10 micro-pipettes, a 4 way nail file, 1500 grit sandpaper, and 1 manicure stick. $19.95 Pretty good deal. Especially when you consider Savarez sells you some silk wrap and glue for $24.00. We also have really good service and you can call us anytime with any questions or problems for advice.
Thanks,
Dave
http://www.guitarplayernails.com/

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2008 7:26:14

Doitsujin

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

I read an interview where Paco Cepero told that he ****ed up his nails for some month with strange glue which "is perfect for guitarrist nails" as all people told him. I stay to my "invention". Its just 6Euro for around 5month.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 26 2008 9:00:34

bahen

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

Funny thing: I use super glue and grout on my thumbnail. It does break off sometimes, but it leaves the natural nail underneath unscathed for the most part. I sprinkle the grout on the superglue as it is still wet on my nail. I go over it with another layer of superglue before finally covering it all up with a nail repair coat, which gives the brittle superglue more flexibility.

I've never had problems with my other nails, except the ring finger, which is what I use for golpe. I file it flat to increase the surface area of impact. It's quite loud. Certainly louder than all my friends. It breaks sometimes :-)

You can, I think, strengthen your nails by rubbing vitamin E into them -- something I also do. It's annoying how we have to tend to our nails so assiduously.

P.s., for those who may not know, grout is the concrete-type material used to cover the spaces between floor tiles.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 28 2008 19:44:10

bahen

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to Doog)

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P.S.: Super glue is perfectly safe to use on the body. As you may know, it is used medically to close superficial wounds. I get winter drying and cracking of the skin on my hands. This can be quite painful because the crack exposes the superficial nerve endings. I routinely cover the crack [and therefore the nerve endings] with super glue so that I can use my hands in comfort. It stays in place for a day or so. Sometimes I need to use it a second time. My point is: Do not worry about having to get super glue off of your body.

Doog: This may be misleading. The grade used medically is probably very different than the ones found in stores. The medical material is probably diffused with something that neutralises the toxicity of cyanoacrylate. It is, to be sure, quite toxic. My eyes burn if I bring my face too close to an open bottle or, in fact, the brush of the superglue.

In any event, you're probably better off just using handcream to prevent your skin from cracking in the first place.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 28 2008 19:54:43

leonaro

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to bahen)

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You can, I think, strengthen your nails by rubbing vitamin E into them -- something I also do. It's annoying how we have to tend to our nails so assiduously.

That's the nice thing about http://www.guitarplayernails.com/
You put em on and forget about them. If you have any problem, you can remove one and put a new one on in less than 10 minutes.
And yea, you don't want to breathe super glue vapors too long, but it actually has antibiotic properties on the skin, and is perfectly safe to use for adhering nails. That's what "nail glue" is. I've been using it on cuts for years. It's great, waterproof, prevents infection, closes wound, no need for band aid.
It's not perfect, but so far it's the best for nails.
Dave

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 28 2008 20:34:49

Kate

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

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ORIGINAL: leonaro
Well in actual fact I've been a member for about 3 or 4 years. I haven't posted in a couple of years though, sorry about that.

That's what I meant about keeping quiet, if you've been a member for years you could have jumped in on any thread about nails, lord knows there are enough of them

These boys love talking nails

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 29 2008 2:36:49

veet

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

What's the big deal about acrylic nails? Totally generic. Los Angeles is full of nail shops, all oddly run by Vietnamese women. I have two that I frequent, it costs me $5 to have my p-a-m-i done, my hand pampered, and 10 minutes of pleasant chat.

You can't get your hand held by mail order.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 29 2008 4:44:00

leonaro

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to XXX)

http://www.guitarplayernails.com/ are not acrylics. Our nails are a much better alternative to acrylics, They sound better, easier to use (youcan apply them yourself in less than 10 minutes), much less harsh on nails, standard in thickness and tone, etc etc. You'd have to compare. But that's why we have these available, as an alternative. If you're happy, stick with what you got.
But we're here if you need us.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 29 2008 5:47:03

leonaro

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to Kate)

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That's what I meant about keeping quiet, if you've been a member for years you could have jumped in on any thread about nails, lord knows there are enough of them
These boys love talking nails

You're right, we should have. Better late than never.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 29 2008 5:48:40

Kate

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to veet)

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ORIGINAL: veet
You can't get your hand held by mail order.

Ha ha ha

hola Veet,

Ever had your hair cut there. My brother in Vietnam said he once had his haircut and was mortified when the girl licked his ears !! What was that about ??!! But yeah the Vietnamese love nails, my sister in law always does mine when we see each other.

Hope you're well,
Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 29 2008 6:53:38

veet

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to Kate)

je je je

hi Kate - no haircuts, sad to say.
I'm well, but missing España dreadfully, hope to drop in later this year. I may check out the Cante de las Minas festival.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 29 2008 10:15:26

Kate

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to veet)

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ORIGINAL: veet
I may check out the Cante de las Minas festival.

Oh yes, wish I had gone when Victor 'el Charico' won his premios. Maybe we'll make it this year, depends on recording schedule.

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 29 2008 10:23:00

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to bahen)

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This may be misleading. The grade used medically is probably very different than the ones found in stores. The medical material is probably diffused with something that neutralises the toxicity of cyanoacrylate. It is, to be sure, quite toxic. My eyes burn if I bring my face too close to an open bottle or, in fact, the brush of the superglue.

It is non toxic. You can eat it. It is an eye irritant though. The vapor that lets it dry, you don't want to breath, but the Cynoacrylate itself is not harmful. The same stuff is sold as "liquid bandaid" now. It is literally the same as used medically. The most danger is the speed at which it bonds, it can bond the skin or burn the eyes. The smell is added, it is originally odorless. Don't sniff that, it will bond your brain and fuse your nasal passages.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 30 2008 2:34:35

bahen

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to John O.)

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My big problem is wearing on the side of the thumb from alzapua and on the i-m fingers from picado. While my nails never break, it never takes long for them to wear down to nothing.

As it happened, I was talking to my materials engineering friend the day before yesterday about the wearing of nails. Remember that the nails wear a *lot* quicker with older strings, and the reason is that the silver that plates the steel strings wears off. Silver is, after all, an incredibly soft metal. As the silver wears off, our nails come in contact with the much harder and coarser steel underneath. So alzapua against steel wears the nail exponentially quicker than it does against silver-plated steel. Keeping the strings new and plated with silver will keep your nails from wearing thin and ultimately breaking or cracking.

Just thought I'd let everyone know about the new bit of acquired knowledge.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 5 2008 14:53:59

HemeolaMan

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to bahen)

thats a very nice tip. of course there are other reasons like new basses are just more fun lol.

leonaro, though i have not tried your product (i will soon) i recommended it to my guitar teacher, diego alonso. i think ricardo might know him?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 5 2008 15:45:42

leonaro

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to HemeolaMan)

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My big problem is wearing on the side of the thumb from alzapua and on the i-m fingers from picado. While my nails never break, it never takes long for them to wear down to nothing.

That's one nice thing about our nails, they don't wear down. I used to have that problem with my i finger from strumming steel string guitars. Not a problem anymore. If you follow the instructions and apply them correctly, you really can have a durable, great sounding nail. They're not perfect, but they're the best there is. Artificial nails are quite a challenge, it's actually become quite a compulsion for me with these things.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 5 2008 18:43:23

leonaro

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

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leonaro, though i have not tried your product (i will soon) i recommended it to my guitar teacher, diego alonso. i think ricardo might know him?

Well thank you. Maybe you should have tried them before reccomending them.
That's ok. Anyone who doesn't like them can send them back and we'll refund their $
http://www.guitarplayernails.com/

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 5 2008 18:54:10

itoprover

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to XXX)

Ok, I tried it on my "a" finger and it seems good, tone is like a natural nail. Not so easy to apply though.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2008 12:20:22

leonaro

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to itoprover)

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Ok, I tried it on my "a" finger and it seems good, tone is like a natural nail. Not so easy to apply though.

There is a little bit of a learning curve. But once you get it down you can remove an old one, and put a new one on pretty flawlessy in about 6 or 7 minutes.
Glad you tried it, and like the tone. We also have a lot of information, tips and suggestions on our site. Make sure you check them out.
Thanks,
Dave

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 14 2008 12:46:16

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

Hi Dave,

I bought your product and have been using it only on the thumb. I still have a half full of the Bond Tie glue. The glue now turns thick and not flowing well. I plan to buy the a super glue from a hw store.
What type should I buy so that it's closely matched with your glue?
Do you plan to imporove the container design so that it's easier to use, stays longer and no need for the little droplets an not easly getting clogged up. May be devidng the current container size into 2 or 3 smaller size containers.

Thanks
Dave

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2008 8:02:41

leonaro

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to DavidT)

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Hi Dave,

I bought your product and have been using it only on the thumb. I still have a half full of the Bond Tie glue. The glue now turns thick and not flowing well. I plan to buy the a super glue from a hw store.
What type should I buy so that it's closely matched with your glue?
Do you plan to imporove the container design so that it's easier to use, stays longer and no need for the little droplets an not easly getting clogged up. May be devidng the current container size into 2 or 3 smaller size containers.

Thanks

It usually lasts quite a while without any problem. Also it's guaranteed not to do that, so go to our site, write me an e-mail with your name and address, and we'll send you another one no charge. Make sure you keep all nail glue dryers (accelerators) away from the bottle when it's opened. (I hope you haven't used half the bottle already. That sounds like you're using way too much glue!) I'm still using a bottle I opened last april ( I put a date on them to test) and it's still thin and strong. You're the first one to have an issue with our glue in over four years, but we'll be glad to send you out another bottle.
Dave

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 15 2008 9:40:14

DavidT

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to leonaro)

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ORIGINAL: leonaro

quote:

Hi Dave,

I bought your product and have been using it only on the thumb. I still have a half full of the Bond Tie glue. The glue now turns thick and not flowing well. I plan to buy the a super glue from a hw store.
What type should I buy so that it's closely matched with your glue?
Do you plan to imporove the container design so that it's easier to use, stays longer and no need for the little droplets an not easly getting clogged up. May be devidng the current container size into 2 or 3 smaller size containers.

Thanks

It usually lasts quite a while without any problem. Also it's guaranteed not to do that, so go to our site, write me an e-mail with your name and address, and we'll send you another one no charge. Make sure you keep all nail glue dryers (accelerators) away from the bottle when it's opened. (I hope you haven't used half the bottle already. That sounds like you're using way too much glue!) I'm still using a bottle I opened last april ( I put a date on them to test) and it's still thin and strong. You're the first one to have an issue with our glue in over four years, but we'll be glad to send you out another bottle.
Dave

I've just received a glue bottle replacement from Dave within 2 days and no question asked.
Thank you Dave for the friendly service.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 23 2008 1:40:03

n85ae

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RE: Artificial Fingernails (in reply to XXX)

Local Hobby shop, they sell all kind of cyanoacrylate glues, and accelerators. You can get anything from water thin, to thick like honey.

Regarless how somebody packages the stuff, nail hardener, etc. It's really
marketing glitz. They're essentially all the same thing. If you buy something
that says something like "Paco's Super Flamenco Nail Hardener", and you're
paying a lot for it, you're getting ripped off.

Caution with the accelerators though, if you kick off the glue with it it makes
a lot of heat. You might be jumping around thinking your finger just caught
fire if you get a lot of glue all going at once :)

Also, acceleration cured glue is NOT as strong as slow cured. This may not
be an issue for nails, but for structural bonding of assembled parts it is an
issue.

Jeff

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 23 2008 3:34:22