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HANDS DOWN 'BEST THREAD 2008' 3 votes

forget it

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 7:32:57

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest) 3 votes

thanks shroomy i have no doubt they are great. But if any one needs finacial support its me, im broke and in debt

and thats what this foro is all about too, sharing. im gonna look thru youtube as well, i saw jose tanaka had a rumba lesson there.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 7:51:39

Ron.M

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest) 2 votes

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im broke and in debt

Everybody is in the same position Dom...
It all boils down as to how you want to allocate your dough IMO.
I mean you already spent $40 on a cejilla, I'm sure you're not starving and I'm sure you like a beer.
But if you want Ricardo's well thought out lessons, then I guess you'll have to stump up.

Or trawl the net for some free "lessons".

But hey... please don't bother the man here...Ricardo already gives a lot of advice for free.

cheers,

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 8:05:57

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Ron.M) 3 votes

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But if you want Ricardo's well thought out lessons, then I guess you'll have to stump up

well i dont remember asking him to give me those lessons for free.

anyway sorry to ask, please dont anyone give me advice on rumba technique i mean what do i think this is...a flamenco forum?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 8:12:41

Guest

RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Ron.M) 3 votes

actually Ron, dont stop there, why dont you keep judging me? i bought the capo on a credit card, perhaps you can advise me more on my finances and how i should allocate them, and try and put a guilt trip on me for asking a simple flamenco related question on a flamenco forum.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 8:31:30

Ron.M

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

Naw Dom,
I mean you can bother me or Henrik or ToddK or Florian etc...
But we don't play much Rumba.

Ricardo used to have a Rumbero band at one time (to make some dough!

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cheers,

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 8:33:46

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Ron.M) 3 votes

whatever, this is why i dont reply to your posts much.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 8:36:13

Ron.M

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

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i bought the capo on a credit card

Ah!

So YOU are the cause of this massive stockmarket collapse!!

Lighten up Dom...

cheers,

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 8:36:19

guitarbuddha

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

Left hand muting, oh and being able to get back into picado without losing time.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 8:57:56

Ricardo

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

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whats the secret to a good rumba technique?

No secret. You just have to have good rhythm, and understand the details and nuances of dynamics etc with in that.

Of course you can always buy Juan Martin's method Dominic, or Borrow Florian's copy!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 9:57:08

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 10:19:59

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Ron.M) 1 votes

**** me, i ask a simple question and look what happens. what is your problem, what is it...i didnt buy the lesson, holy crap im sorry. i have contibuted enough in the past to ask a simple question and i never asked for ricardos lesson for free i asked a general question to anybody that was willing to help. what is wrong with this place

you know what, Ron cancel my account.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 10:26:57

ToddK

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

The secret is to play over the soundhole, and use really old, crusty strings.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 10:39:56

cathulu

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

Chill dude, it's Shroomy's fault - he even admits it.

Just act like a duck, it works for me!

For my rumba strum, I don't bother with the slapping part and it still sounds good.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 11:44:00

HemeolaMan

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

personally, i took the gipsy kings records and slowed them way the hell down. that and my intro to guitars with nylon strings was ottmar liebertt.

i'm actually dead serious. i realize that makes me an awful person lol.

i htink the key to the rhumba strum is definitely not using just I on the first downstroke, i have found that using a and m together instead of i makes for a much better rhumba strum

i think the slap is best minimized to just the thumb lightly golpe at first.

you know, i watched ricardo's videos and they are very good, but in my opinion it didnt really help me too much. ten again, i was already rhumba strumming away b4 i saw them =)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 15:35:22

Florian

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to HemeolaMan)

Jesus what happened here ?

Give the guy a brake, he dosent have money dosent have money, i dont have money. SO what ? sure hes got enough stress in his life without having to justifie his budget here.
I am sure Ricardos lessons are excellent and if Domenic could he would, no need to rub it in his face.

regardless of weather his reaction was justified or not, he IS right, he did ask a straight foward flamenco related question in a flamenco forum, and he didnt ask Ricardo personally. He wasent rude, wasent arrogant, Hes done no more or less than anyone of us has in the past.

Also Domenic , chill mate, why are you taking it so personal ?, most of what i see is light half joking coments that you can eazy replie with a smile on your face and not have to apologise to anyone for beeing broke. Its not that you overeacted but they dont know your state of mind, if you are under stress or whatever ATm, the smallest joke can seem insulting.

and enough with the ****ing rating game, when people are upset there is a reason they act a certain way, rating them down only puts them even lower, forghet the ****ing rating, we all know eachother , lets not kick eachother while we are down cause its ****ing low.

A person is clearely upset so what do you do ? make it look like the whole world is against him, isolate him even more ? its fake, stupid and realy realy uncompassionat..incompassionat..compassionatless whatever the ****ing word is , you know !

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 18:12:51

Florian

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Florian)

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Of course you can always buy Juan Martin's method Dominic, or Borrow Florian's copy!

YOU B*STARD !!!

you broke my heart with that one

@ Domenic, cmon mate dont take it so personally, it might have not been the most straight foward replies but it was nothing that bad, it was mostly jokes and light conversation, perhaps even missinformed and sarcastic but nothing that mean. Hoping that once you chill you look over it again and realize that.

Besides you not allowed to quit unless you make atlist a 3 page "Good Bye" post

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 18:26:03

Pimientito

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Florian)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 19:33:06

Pimientito

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Florian)

Dominic....you need some beautiful girl rumba therapy,
this is actually useful and free! (even if its not flamenco)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 19:36:44

duende

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

Pimientito

thats was funny

why can´t we have a popcorn eating smiley?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 19:42:19

Pimientito

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to duende)

Its true.... I am waiting for pro celebrity flamenco guitar wrestling next....

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Besides you not allowed to quit unless you make at least a 3 page "Good Bye" post

Spoken from the Dostoyevski King of goodbye posts (that only last 6 hours)!!

Its all these delicate sensitive artistic sensabilities here. Feelings get trodden on from time to time. Come back Dom...please....we didnt mean it...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 20:11:27

Ron.M

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest) 1 votes

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But hey... please don't bother the man here...Ricardo already gives a lot of advice for free.

Sorry Dominic,
I could have phrased that better...
I should have said..
"I think Ricardo is probably the best guy to give advice here, having had a Rumba Band himself for a while.
We all know he's always very helpful.. but we've got to realize that it puts him in a bit of an awkward position here to reply on this one, since the guys over at FT have got to pay for his video lessons."

Sorry if it made you sound like a moocher, I didn't mean to.

I always thought all you Aussies were laid back, "no worries" sorta guys.
Sorry it got you so upset.

cheers,

Ron

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 21:29:40

Georg

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to duende) 1 votes

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why can´t we have a popcorn eating smiley?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 21:53:39

Florian

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Ron.M)

quote:

I think Ricardo is probably the best guy to give advice here, having had a Rumba Band himself for a while.
We all know he's always very helpful.. but we've got to realize that it puts him in a bit of an awkward position here to reply on this one, since the guys over at FT have got to pay for his video lessons."

Ron i appreciate the fact that you are taking the initiative to make peace lol

If Ricardo is the best guy and is in that position then let the second best or 3rd best or anyone else take it, if it dosent bother DOmenic getting advice from 2nd or 3rd or 4th in line why sould it bother you ?

Ricardo shouldnt have to feel like he has to answer everything, why was it an awkward position ?he wasent asking Ricardo specificaly, it was just a general question aimed at anyone that wanted to help.

Ricardo is qualified to answer all questions here, does that mean noone should ask any because it might put him under pressure to answer all ? thats ridiculous,
noone expects anymore from Ricardo than what he has allready given, we all apreciate it including Domenic, nowhere did Domenic mention Ricardo.

i am sorry but this arggument dosent have a leg to stand on

just a simple "sorry " would have done it

and then i am sure he will be man enough to apologise for his part. its not that hard ... You made assumptions and misscomunicated (and i say this with love for you ), he overeacted (and i say this with love for him ) etc etc. lets not paint **** yellow and call it gold , we are all to smart for that

My mom apologises just like this and if you blink , by the end the apology ends its all your fault again.

but i will shut up now

i have said enough you guys all do what u think its right, its alot of stress on me always beeing this right

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 22:18:49

Pimientito

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Georg)

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Georg.....I dont know how you found that but its the most useful thing I've seen on this thread so far. Cant admin incorporate that into the special smiley list

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 23:07:01

guitarbuddha

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Florian)

Good left hand muting, and the flexibility to get back to fixed position techniques without losing time.

It is a great thing to practice the right hand alone whilst reciting the cascada rhythm ( the one that goes 'I dont like carrots I like tomatoes' ). Maybe one bar strulmming one bar picado alternating on a single string.

If you don't fancy that then I can sell you some magic beans.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 23:10:48

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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'I dont like carrots I like tomatoes'

I can't figure how that fits. Can you explain? I'm fond of using daft rhymes to help with rhythms

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 23 2008 23:51:22

guitarbuddha

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Ailsa)

a 1
DaDa .Da. DaDa. Dada. Dada. Da.
I dont like carrots I like toma toes

The 'I' is ahead of the downbeat, dots and syllables all last one quarter beat.

I use slap, i (up and close hand), i (down), P (up and hand opens to prepare slap). This is in straight semiquavers and it is real good for the coordination and variety of accents to say the cascada which is syncopated in a interesting ways.
This rhythm is used extensively in cuban music and also (often inversion) in african drumming.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jan. 24 2008 1:26:41

Arash

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RE: whats the secret to a good rumba... (in reply to Guest)

Shroomy, thanks, this french guy has a very good sound!
Also checked his other videos (Solea por Medio etc.). Very nice

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