RE: spanish characters

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Escribano

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RE: spanish characters (in reply to El Kiko)

It's called pattern recognition. I studied it at University. The brain takes in graphical information about 70% more efficiently than written or verbal information. The brain is converting familiar writing into shapes and needs few clues to do so. Joining the dots, if you will.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 6 2013 18:30:42

guitarbuddha

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RE: spanish characters (in reply to BarkellWH)

Bill

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

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Goodwill may well be more 'proper' than good grammar, if communication is the goal.

The two are not mutually exclusive, Guitarbuddha. Just out of curiosity, are you referring to Chester's clarification or my endorsement of it?

Cheers,

Bill

Well that certainly is a mystery Bill.

But,hold on, NO !! Bill you are such a naughty disingenuous boy. In my post I quoted the exact phrase which I was mocking.

Since you have asked for clarification here it is again. Please savour it.

quote:

Once again illustrating the importance of proper punctuation and grammar if one wishes to make meaning precise.

Cheers,

I would like to humbly suggest that when you willfully ignore the point of a post or affect bemusement at the use of language within it you are being rude. Also the idea that we should all produce 'finished prose' is ridiculous.This is amply demonstrated by your own failures.

This is an informal forum and people have different tastes and idioms, I welcome them all.

Now I know that you will be tempted to attack my schoolboy English but please PLEASE bear one thing in mind. You will be missing the point and, despite your impish insistence on that particular rhetorical sleight of hand, I find it wearisome.

D.

The corrected phrase.

'Thank you Chester for illustrating,once again, the importance of good grammar and clear punctuation. These can be vital in communicating meaning precisely.'

That was tedious to write and no doubt tedious to read. It in no way represents my concept of ideal foro communication. We are all flawed and I will repeat one more time.

Goodwill may well be more proper than good grammar.

(note the correct use of the word proper Bill)

PS I ignored your attempt to create a false opposition in the initial phrase of your last post Bill. This was of course out of kindness.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 7 2013 0:11:20

chester

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RE: spanish characters (in reply to El Kiko)

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not bursting a bubble

I know, I was joking. Give me a chance to show off my superior english skillz too.

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Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer be at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

Funnily enough, earlier today my mom confused the words 'until' and 'unit'. Go figure...

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 7 2013 1:28:26

BarkellWH

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RE: spanish characters (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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I would like to humbly suggest that when you willfully ignore the point of a post or affect bemusement at the use of language within it you are being rude.

Speaking of being rude, Guitarbuddha, let's examine some of your responses that, shall we say, have been less than civil. As one example (among many), on May 9, 2013, I initiated a topic in the "Off Topic" section entitled, "The Last Lion, Defender of the Realm (Churchill Biography)." It was a review of the third volume of William Manchester's biography of Winston Churchill and concerned Churchill's life from 1940 to 1965.

You immediately referred to the disaster at Gallipoli during World War I. There were two responses to your comment, and your replies to those respnses represented language as rude as any I have seen on the Foro. In an effort to spare the name of the person besides myself, I shall label him "Person A", plus the comment I myself made, along with your replies. Anyone who wishes to verify this is welcome to check out the above-cited title in the "Off Topic" section.

1. My reply to your comment about Gallipoli: "Gallipoli was a disaster during World War I. The third volume of Manchester's biography, to which I am referring in my comment, concerns Churchill's leadership as Prime Minister during World War II."

Your resonse to my comment, Guitarbuddha: "Who are you talking to there Bill ????? Are you giving me information you think I don't have, sure would be some kind of coincidence if I happened to mention Gallipoli ?...I am inviting you to acknowledge that there could be some very good reasons for his political isolation. But no you attempt to place my (addmittedly sarcastic) jibe out of context since you only ever seriously address the cheap seats. But bravely done kicking off a post mentioning the Nazis straight off the bat.
Are you trying to set some kind of record ? Listen .... can you hear it ...... it is the sound of one had clapping."

2. Person A's comment: "He wasn’t listened to about Gallipoli: that’s made very clear in the earlier part of Manchester’s biography; and also in Government memos that are now declassified, but which Churchill couldn’t adduce publicly in his own defence at the time, because they were secret."

Your response to Person A's comment, Guitarbuddha: "What would possibly compel me to accept without question your intellectual honesty ?"

3. Person A's followup comment to your incredibly rude questioning of his "intellectual honesty": "What you accept is your own business. Were you always this rude, or did you practise?"

Your response to Person A's followup comment, Guitarbuddha: "Maybe for me it is a talent. You clearly do practice."

Before calling anyone rude, Guitarbuddha, you may wish to reflect on the old adage about people who live in glass houses throwing stones.

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 7 2013 1:47:03

guitarbuddha

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RE: spanish characters (in reply to BarkellWH)

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

Before calling anyone rude, Guitarbuddha, you may wish to reflect on the old adage about people who live in glass houses throwing stones.

Bill

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Bill I think we might have a deal . Can we also agree not to draw too much attention to non standard English ?

With regards to your dredging up of that old post I already apologised to Paul privately and explained myself.

An apology may not be as good as avoiding offensiveness but it has its merits....

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 7 2013 1:52:39

BarkellWH

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From: Washington, DC

RE: spanish characters (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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Bill I think we might have a deal . Can we also agree not to draw too much attention to non standard English ?

A deal it is, Guitarbuddha. Let's move on and continue exploring the many facets of flamenco and other interesting topics.

Cheers,

Bill

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jun. 7 2013 10:16:41