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Jon Boyes
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 RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to bindu_72)
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"My email is bindu_72@hotmail.com"
OK, will have a look later.
"I have tried and tried until my fingers are sore but I still cant play the Entre dos aguas picado runs like he does - if you can, how long did it take you - and do you have any tips for me to build up this speed and accuracy."
Firstly, no I can't :-) This is the only number at my gigs I use a pick for. I don't use it for the whole tune, just for the middle section where he plays those runs. Even then I sometimes chicken out and play something similar.
I don't have a conventional IM picado technique anyhow (RSI problem), but I am working on a new 'no pick' technique solution (new to me but not to flamenco). If things work out with this I'll be posting some audio and discussing it here.
As for speed and accuracy, Pumping Nylon has a great section on scale speed with exercises. I am a big fan of the idea that speed can be built up by practicing AT speed in small controlled bursts (get the book to see what I mean).
A whole lot more has already been said here about picado - the importance of practicing with a very relaxed hand, the way Paco elevates his arm to give a flat, straight forearm>wrist, developing a staccato attack to give clearer note separation, using a metronome with exercise to co-ordinate your left and right hands.
(somebody really ought to archive the technique tips ...)
Bear in mind that PDL took up the guitar when he was a small boy and his father locked him in his room to practice for 11-12 hours a day, and you'll see why his technique is so awesome.
"On a related issue I have been practicing the Alzapua technique - how long roughly speaking does it take to build up the speed so that it sounds similar to what paco plays it in La Barossa."
If you mean the very rapid triplets he plays, I'd say about fifteen to twenty years 
Carfeul not to burn yourself. I think Alzapua is probably the technique that should be practiced with the greatest care. It can put great strain on the wrist if not done carefully and for limited periods.
"Firstly, do you use tablature software like Tabedit or Guitarpro."
I use Tabledit.
"Secondly, out of interest how long would it take you to tab Inspiration, Faena and Moorea (1st album version).
Probably around 3- 4 hours work per track at a guess.
Jon
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Date Mar. 17 2004 12:27:48
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Patrick
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From: Portland, Oregon
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RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to Thomas Whiteley)
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I would suggest you concentrate on regular, structured exercises for rasgeos, picado, alzapua, arpeggio, pulgar etc. - rather than play a piece over and over again.
Bindu,
I agree completely with Simon. I think you are approaching flamenco in a Classical guitar sense. With this approach you will spend massive amounts of time learning three or four songs, without learning much, if anything about flamenco. The reason I say songs, is that's exactly what you will be able to play, but with little understanding of the underlying basis of flamenco. Instead of focusing on a couple of pieces, I would advise you to absorb yourself in as much flamenco as possible (listen to lots and lots of flamenco).
Granted, with time, you may become a very good guitarist, but not a good flamenco guitarist.
Pat
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Date Mar. 17 2004 16:19:02
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gerundino63
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From: The Netherlands
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RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to bindu_72)
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Hi Bindu!
I have a nice picado practice that perhaps help you a little.
Most picado problems start with chainsing the strings.
this is how i practice my right hand: ( the left hand speeds up in time/ practice)
imi on the 1st string
mim..........2th string
imi ............3th string
mim.............4th string
imi..............5th string
mim............6th string
than back from the 6th string to the 1st string again
start slow, and do it all together very regular.
After that imim 1 imim 2 imim3 imim4 etcetera
After that imimi 1 mimim2 imimi3 etcetra.
You think in months , better start learning to think in years!
One more thing, I disagree with my frends here, ( where have we frends for, right?)
I think it is very useful to built up slowly a repetoire with "songs"
It keeps you remember and study every technique, it is easy to put practicing into a song, take a solea, put some rasgueado in it some alzapua, a tremolo, llamada, and you have a song and practice everything at the same time.
Also it is good to study from your idols, you find out than what you must do better, you learn to breakdown music to pieces, and learn what difficulties the song have.
good luck with it, Peter.
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Date Mar. 17 2004 19:20:50
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gerundino63
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Joined: Jul. 11 2003
From: The Netherlands
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RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to bindu_72)
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Hi Bindu!
I started flamenco at the age of 25, am 40 now, Playing next week at a Spanish Party, giving lessons, so, 30 is not really limited!
Besides that, I have red, that if you happen to live in the year 2015, your live expertation is 120.
Do not know if it is true, but in case it is, be prepared to play till you are 110, so 80 years left to practice!!
greetings, and, just to be curious, where do you come from?
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Date Mar. 17 2004 23:01:42
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Patrick
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Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Portland, Oregon
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RE: Make your request for tablature here (in reply to bindu_72)
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I started flamenco at the age of 25, am 40 now, Playing next week at a Spanish Party, giving lessons, so, 30 is not really limited!
You guys are all kids! At 53, I have to beat my hands with a hammer to get feeling in them. Oh to be young again, but then again, I know things you don't know. Well, I think I do, but I can’t remember what they are.
They say the mind is the second thing to go, but I can’t remember what the first one is!
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Date Mar. 17 2004 23:12:31
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