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Franchiquito

 

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Zorongo 

ùHello to all,
What this palo is?
Anyone can post some mp3?

tx a lot

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 14 2007 7:58:08
 
Kate

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RE: Zorongo (in reply to Franchiquito

Quoting the guide to Andalusian Flamenco,

"The Zorongo was black american dance, of great success in theatres, dance schools, an dparties during the romantic era that has fallen into disuse. However Gypsies began to cultivate this dance at the begnning of the 20 th century in such a way that it has become a style now belonging to the repertoire of many dancers and singers and guitarists. Its performed in modal tones with the first part being free style and a chorus to the tempo of the buleria"

I have one on a CD and will try and find out how to make an MP3.
un saludo
Kate

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 14 2007 20:40:16
 
Franchiquito

 

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RE: Zorongo (in reply to Franchiquito

Hi Kate,
thank you so much, i'll wait!
It was a request by the teacher of the dance school were i go to accompaign,
so I have to find some easy to play zorongos.
Thank you very much.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 15 2007 6:47:13
 
Ricardo

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RE: Zorongo (in reply to Kate

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kate

Quoting the guide to Andalusian Flamenco,

"The Zorongo was black american dance, of great success in theatres, dance schools, an dparties during the romantic era that has fallen into disuse. However Gypsies began to cultivate this dance at the begnning of the 20 th century in such a way that it has become a style now belonging to the repertoire of many dancers and singers and guitarists. Its performed in modal tones with the first part being free style and a chorus to the tempo of the buleria"

I have one on a CD and will try and find out how to make an MP3.
un saludo
Kate


That is real interesting, never heard about that. But honestly, in flamenco terms, it refers specifically to the Lorca piece. The first part of the song (la luna es pozo chico...) is sort of slow and free but in 3 beats, the second part gets faster and is really bulerias, or uses that compas anyway. Very typical is to use it as an intro for Siguiriyas of all things, I mean danced numbers, not sure who started doing that, but you know from the Carmen Amaya era when everyone with a big dance troupe was in USA.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 16 2007 14:48:59
 
Kate

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RE: Zorongo (in reply to Ricardo

The Guide to Andalusian flamenco is very informative ( assuming they have it right of course) and it also comes with two CDs which have examples of 113 different palos from people like Segundo Falcon, Aguetas, Lebrijano!!!

It would make sense that flamenco troupes working in the US would pick up on something like this. Lorca was fascinated by the Black Americans in New York and it inspired many of his best surreal poetry.

Kate

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 16 2007 17:00:11
 
Estevan

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RE: Zorongo (in reply to Franchiquito

You can hear - and download - a short example here:
Zorongo (Guía telemática del flamenco)
The tunes here are the standard ones, the slow part is normal but the fast part is extremely fast. Usually, as Ricardo said, it's in bulerías compás.
Paco Peña plays a nice zorongo, I'm sure he's recorded it but I can't tell you right now which album it's on.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 16 2007 21:16:32
 
Franchiquito

 

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RE: Zorongo (in reply to Franchiquito

Thanks a lot to all!

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 17 2007 13:18:26
 
photog

 

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RE: Zorongo (in reply to Franchiquito

Paco Pena did record it, it's on 'The Fabulous Paco Pena'. I learnt it for a dance class but they didn't like it.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 18 2007 13:39:19
 
Franchiquito

 

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RE: Zorongo (in reply to Franchiquito

Well, i'm interested in zorongo as someone asked me also for dance classes!

why they didn't like it ? can i have a sample of it?
thanks


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