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Pimientito
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From: Marbella
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 RE: food for thought (in reply to HemeolaMan)
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I have just come in from lunch on the beach, a plate of grilled sardines, which coincidentally are related to Tuna and red Snapper (in that they are fish) and was going to write a post on the off topic section but it fits this one perfectly.
As I was devouring my humble meal admiring the attractive and also not so attractive people passing by in bathing costume, I remembered the immortal words of the English Bard Shakespeare ...
"is it not strange that sheeps guts should hale souls from mens bodies?"
This was in reference to a lute player in "much ado about nothing" and it reminded me of the flamenco poet Lorca and how he also wrote about the guitar
"The lament of the guitar begins, it is useless to try to stop it.... it weeps for distant things....Oh guitar, heart mortally wounded by Five swords"
As I continued my lunch I thought to myself, damn poets, talking in riddles, what was Lorca on about, heart wounded by five swords....
I mean a guitar has 6 strings, the lament of the guitar needs 6 strings. As i sucked the flesh off the skeleton of my last sardine I looked down and everything became clear.
I saw my own hand covered in sticky fish juice and realised my 5 fingers were the 5 swords, my personal weaponry necessary to pull the heartstrings and hale souls from mens bodies. Oh guitar.......
(taking beret off now)
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Date Oct. 11 2007 14:57:43
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carlos soto
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RE: food for thought (in reply to HemeolaMan)
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food for thought is good, unless it's fast food... ahhh crappy jokes 
I think art has been and will continue to be in a very hidden place in people head. Just take a look while you are walking in the centre of most "modern" cities. Maybe is a matter of money but everything seems out of tune.
Everything, the architecture, roads, the lack of free space, you are supposed to take a brick and build something original, not a giant brick...
sorry if I sound a bit negative, I just think people forget about this and are beeing taught at school that art is just another option, when in reality everything we create is just that or should at least be that.
I just read an inteview about the guy that designed a school in my country which has won a lot of fame due to the construction of a new state of the art campus, it's a wonderful thing to see. I was surprised at what he said when asked about how he designed the whole thing: "I was told I should design a school and that it should be ready in about a year but I was really inspired when they told me to think ahead...and so for me I was in 2057 designing a school to be completed in 2058"
Im pretty sure that most great artist were able to get into state of minds like this guy, I think that's what's all about.
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Date Oct. 11 2007 23:55:57
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NormanKliman
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RE: food for thought (in reply to HemeolaMan)
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Interesting quotes, particularly the first, and comments. I had to laugh at the skull joke, too. 
Just for the purpose of analyzing these quotes, I'd have to say that there are a couple of factors involved, IMO, that he didn't address.
In the first quote, I think greatness also depends on the time frame, at least in flamenco. Some of the things you hear on old recordings are truly great, even though they might not be very exciting today, at least not on first impression. Which leads to the other factor that isn't found in this quote: Sometimes the listener has to make an effort in order to understand the greatness, which is practically at odds with what he said about the work of art "inviting you in."
I don't find much mystery or "reasons unkown" in the subject of the second quote. Artists like showing off, and if some of them put in the effort to do things right it must be because it feels good for them when they do it. I might summarize the entire quote by saying that a musician should be telling a story with his/her music.
About why music fascinates people, a "rhythmic architecture" or "hierarchy of accents" is very important, IMO. It's one thing to play different accents over 12 beats, and it's another to play a few hundred beats and to keep the dynamics just right and the compás tight. I'm not referring to playing metronomically but rather to the fact that everything's got a beginning, middle and end. I think that's what's most responsible for the listener being drawn into the music (and staying there). It's all about the passing of time and the absence of distractions.
Just my opinion, I hope others will offer more interesting comments.
Norman
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Date Oct. 12 2007 19:49:11
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