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Adam

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Government + Music 

Sometime next week the Political Union at my school is going to be debating the topic "Resolved: Separate Art + State". One of the key arguments that the guest speaker (an American libertarian from the Cato Institute, for those of you familiar with US politics) is going to make is that government involvement hurts art because it forces the art to be tailored to bureaucrats' satisfaction. The guest speaker is followed with student debate and I'm crafting my speech now, so I'm looking for experience from the foro members :) What do you think of State involvement in Art (particularly music, even flamenco), and what experiences have you had with it? Kate, I'm especially looking to you on this one, I remember we talked a bit about the Spanish government subsidizing a lot of albums for very, very short runs. What's the deal with that and is it beneficial or otherwise for music and the consumer? Thanks!
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Adam

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Oooh, that's quite a lineup on that CD! But presumably it can't be found anywhere, right? I'm guessing because the government can't afford to print so many?

Val, you may want to shorten the links so that the page is formatted right. Use the "link" button above the post.
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gato

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I think that Government support of the Arts is just fine. Certainly there are bound to be problems, but there are problems in the Arts on every level and for every aspect in both public and private domains. It certainly doesn't hurt the Arts for the Arts not only to represent the private domain, but also the views and satisfaction of the government. It is not a war of stated opinions and perceptions but that of pure satisfaction of the Arts, which is a healthy Arts environment for all. If the government negated the importance of the Arts, there would be less freedom of expression for all. As long as the private domain can exist free of tampering by the government, I guess it's just that the Arts are doing well in both domains. It can only mean a positve influence then, unless it is the subject of social paranoia.
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Kate

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Hi Val,

Can you post the Spanish version of this review? I read this last night at about 4 am after a lot of wine and it took a while to realise it was a google translation which is why it was so hard to understand. If we understood the figures right it was a very expensive project. Looks like each track cost over €10,000 each. I guess the artists all got paid a substantial amount ( otherwise they would not have done it) which is often not the case with government funded projects. I wonder how much the producer paid herself.


I have this CD as it happens, I bought it for 4 euros from a local kiosk. It's a great idea, fascinating to have so many different versions of the "Himno de Andalucia" by such great artists. I did not know about the controversy detailed in the above article, ie that the producer of the record was also the director of the Agency which funded it.

This is the problem, 'jobs for the boys' whic is basically corruption. ie Here in Granada the arts council will give a project the go ahead and then the council themselves, record, produce, distribute etc. and then pay themselves. Often the artists are not paid, do not recieve royalties and the CD is used as a promotion for the arts council to show off its good works. They throw a party , throw a few copies around and that's that , job done and the CD disappears.

We are currently looking to the Agencia Andaluz to support us in a project so I will hold out judgement untill I see what happens with our request. Basically a young lad from Granada, an amazing singer ( some of you who saw Emilio Maya play in UK will remember EL Charico, he also sings on Emilio's album) who was at the point of being recognised by the flamenco world as an outstanding singer when he tragically overdosed and has been in a coma now for 18 months. A group of Charico's friends and supporters want to make the recording of his live performance at La Puebla flamenco festival available to the public and are hoping for the backing of the Agencia Andaluz to make this possible. The cost is minimal ( probably about 1% of what was spent on Himno de Andalucia) as the recording already exists ( We simply need to master it and have copies pressed and artwork made up) and the festival has agreed to release it but only if we have official backing. I'll let you know if we are successful, it is not even their money we need really, just their support.


By the way can some-one reformat this page as it is very difficult to read.

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Val, do you have an image of the cover of that CD?
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