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Kate
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From: Living in Granada, Andalucía
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I finally got hold of the Camerón DVD, not a live concert but his life story. Has anyone else seen it ? Would love to hear what you thought.
I thought it was pretty lightweight at the time but days later I am still mulling it over.
It was quite hard to work out the time scale. When we saw a cajón onstage both harold and I went " No, too early" but then realised that maybe more 'fictional' time had passed than we thought. We were also just about to bitch about the fact Camerón had not been shown playing the guitar when they had a shot of him in his hotel room playing, for about 5 seconds.
It was also a bit annoying that there was nothing about the creative side of life, ie who write the songs, where did they come from etc. In the end it was not that informative, young Gypsy boys fails at being a torero, so becomes flamenco singer, goea to madrid, gets famous, gets married, dies.
However it was sort of fascinating, even though they were actors, to see Antonio Mairena and Manolo Caracol watching the new kid on the block. We had the subtitles on and bizarrely they did not bother to translate the word " payo/a" which was used a lot, dont know how they expected English audiences to know what that meant. Also funny as Camerón himself was a payo actor but he was pretty convincing. At the panuela ceremony at his marriage they showed the women going into a room and then the camera soft focused on four carnations on a white table. I wonder how many foreigners got that reference.
Worth seeing I think,
Kate
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Date Jun. 13 2007 18:16:14
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paco picado
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RE: Camerón (in reply to Kate)
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I was speaking to an old aficionado, when in Almunecar, a Gitano, who spoke good English,as he worked in an Estate agency and as my Spanish, even after a year and a half, never went further than ordering food at restaurants or asking directions etc. In fact this inability, plus my moderate to mild dyslexia, I have had as a kid; in learning my own language English, has made me hang up my Guitar, for a long time to come. But anyway to the point of this thread. Cameron once played in the park in Almunecar, and the guy i spoke to who has lived there for years said, he.. Cameron did a concert in the park; would sing for maybe half an hour, then disappear into the Barrio Gitano, near the Castle, to get his shot of Heroin. This would be repeated, every hour /half hour throughout the show. I don’t know what year this was, but I believe him, for reasons I don’t want to reveal.
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Date Jun. 13 2007 21:51:42
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Kate
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Joined: Jul. 8 2003
From: Living in Granada, Andalucía
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RE: Camerón (in reply to buleria)
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Hi Karen Anne,
No of course you are not hijacking the thread. I'm glad to see it is still going after Ricardo called me a nerd 
Anyway I was only asking round the other day if there was a really good Bio of Camarón. So thanks for the tip. Also think your comment that the movie was light is true, for me anyway. Yes there are glimpses of the dark side, the dilema of flamenco, Gypsy poverty and customs, and the phenomena that was Camarón but just that glimpses, oblique references. Duende got it right saying that as he knew so much about Camarón he could follow the underlying references, but without that it could be the film bio of any singer, ( albeit one who got rich, famous and died young) and he was not just any singer.
For me to analyse and criticise a film is critical appreciation. Ricardo's comment that Camarón was such an important person is an understatement. Here in Spain Camarón is practically worshipped. The part in the film where they leave the church and a mother brings her sick child to be blessed hints at it. In almost every bar there is a picture of Camarón, alongside the virgen, in a gilt frame sometimes with flowers, looking more like a shrine. Not a day goes by when I dont hear his voice coming from an open window, a local bar or a passing car. So Donald maybe not prime minister from beyond the grave but an unofficial Saint.
Anyway talking with the girls the other day we all agreed the actor did an amazing job and at times we forgot it was not Camarón himself. We also agreed it was great anti smoking film !!
Off topic from flamenco but I saw Babel last night and thought it was great ! I loved the way the world connected from the US to Japan to Morroco and how one gun shot reverberated round that world.
Kate
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