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carlos soto
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I'm very thrilled, in june I'll be traveling to Andalucia to study flamenco with great maestros, this is my first time in Spain so I don't really know what to expect, I have scheduled a two week period per city, first in Jerez de la frontera with el carbonero, then in carmen de las cuevas in Granada and finally to the festival de la guitarra in Cordoba  , I'm wondering if anyone here has ever been in any of this places?? any advices on where to stay, eat and visit... I'm getting inspired of just looking at the pictures, the alhambra, la mezquita... I can't wait to be there  , cheers 
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Date Apr. 17 2006 0:31:01
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RE: Around Andalucia (in reply to carlos soto)
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Hola Carlos
Sounds like a very well planned schedule. You´ve done your homework well. I hope it wont be to hot (it will )
If you want a nice dinner or lunch in Granada, I recommend Albahaca in calle Varela. Around 10 - 12 euros the menu at lunch time, and quality and atmosphere is very nice.
Why don´t you call me, and lets see if I can come down from the mountains and have lunch with you. 
Tlf on my website.
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Date Apr. 17 2006 10:38:12
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Jim Opfer
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From: Glasgow, Scotland.
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RE: Around Andalucia (in reply to carlos soto)
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Carlos,
Great trip, but take care, it will be hot and you are taking on a lot of work.
I've been to Cordoba on the course. Check out hotel 'El Triumpho' the spelling might not be right but it is between the river and the Mezquita just at the bridge, you can't miss it, it has some classical columns standing just outside. Thing is it's quite innexpensive, tidy and has air con, an absolute must. It is also very handy for the course office and the teaching venue (if it is still in the municipal building by the Mezquita)
Be careful not to take too much on, it's amazing how easy it can be to get exhausted with too much rattling round your brain, things to learn, the heat and the travel.
Anyway, have a good time and make sure to say helo to Anders and Simon if you can.
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Date Apr. 17 2006 12:35:16
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Kate
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From: Living in Granada, Andalucía
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RE: Around Andalucia (in reply to carlos soto)
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Hola Carlos,
Sounds like a great trip. I'll meet up with you if you do lunch at ALbahaca, always a pleasure to see Anders and Simon and last time we met up it was just closing and we had to eat at Europa, guirri food as Anders calls it ( ie foreign) chips with everything.
You will find there is a great social scene at Carmen las Cuevas and you'll get to know the Albaicin well, be prepared to walk a lot and stay out late at night. Be sure to check out the Peña Platería, La Bulería, Venta del Gallo and the Eshavira. ( This weekend Kiki Morente ( son of Enrique) sang there accompanied by Juan Habichuela ( Grandson to the maestro).
Best cheap place to eat in Albaicin is the Torcuato which has moved recently to Calle del Agua. They do a set menu every day and you will often spot the local flamencos there. I saw Manolete there over the weekend.
You'll probably get accomodation organised by Carmen Las Cuevas, which is a good option as you share with fellow students, but if not I reccomend http://www.elnumero8.com/ ( Anders used to live there and it is now self catering apartments) funky atmosphere, great landlord ( speaks English) and even shows late night films on the terrace, and of course views of the Alhambra.
Kate
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Date Apr. 17 2006 12:54:25
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Kate
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From: Living in Granada, Andalucía
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RE: Around Andalucia (in reply to Escribano)
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I love the stuff with tomatoes. I imagine with the heat in Andalucia it grows in no time. Is it on your balcon Simon?
I planted my Albahaca just before Easter, two days later I had pots and pots of seedlings. Hope they grow into big plants and dont find the heat too much on the terrace.
Talking of which, June wont be as hot as July but if you follow the example of the locals you cope better. Always walk in the shade, never sit in the midday sun ( midday here is 2 pm), get your shopping done early morning when it is cooler, spend the afternoons asleep, leave your windows/shutters open at night to catch the night air, close them in the day to keep the room cool, drink lots of ice cold Gazpacho. In Granada the cool breeze from the mountains comes down after about 9 pm, that's the time to go out and socialize, people eat from 10 pm until midnight after which the nightlife really kicks off. Whne it gets too much flee to the Sierra where you will still find snow to roll about in 
Kate
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Date Apr. 17 2006 13:59:56
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Kate
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From: Living in Granada, Andalucía
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RE: Around Andalucia (in reply to carlos soto)
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What's the official drink over there? I heard Jerez has some nice wines but haven't heard of Granada and Cordoba, I suppose legal age to drink is 18 right? If so drinks are on me!
Hey great mine's a Rioja, that's wine from the North. In Jerez THE drink is sherry, some many types from dry pale fino, manzanilla and even more that get darker and sweeter. In Granada the youngsters all seem to go for Whisky and coke or rum and coke, the local rum is a must try called Palido which is the closest I've come to hallucinating on alcohol, and of course the local beer Alhambra. They also drink tinto verano which is a wine and lemonade mix, or sangria which is wine, fruit and brandy, both with lots of ice. There's also a wine and coke mix which I've never tried as it sounds revolting, who could do that to wine ??? Legal age to drink is 18 in the bars and I think 14 if you are having a meal. Whatever you are unlikely to be asked for ID. Measures are large, ie about five times the size of a UK measure, so watch out !!
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Date Apr. 17 2006 17:02:02
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Ricardo
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From: Washington DC
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RE: Around Andalucia (in reply to Kate)
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They also drink tinto verano which is a wine and lemonade mix, or sangria which is wine, fruit and brandy, both with lots of ice. There's also a wine and coke mix which I've never tried as it sounds revolting, who could do that to wine ???
Tinto ver ano As my friends tease me when I say it. Red wine and some clear soda on ice. Tinto limon is red wine and lemon Fanta (lemon soda). With ice. Very refreshing. Wine and coke is Calemocho. Good actually, again on ice, if you don't want to get too hot and drunk. Red wine warms me up and too much I start to get sleepy and drunk. In the summer you mix red wine with soda or coke, it is refreshing, and you can keep partying. Taky, but "cool".
Manzanilla is the most "flamenco" drink IMO. Good with jamon serrano, manchego, and sea food.
Carlos, my wife is from Nicaragua. When I go down there, I can't follow anything they are yapping about, but in Spain I was able to get by on my own. Maybe if you know the flamenco lingo, and that is who you hang with, it is easier to follow and converse. The hardest for me was the cab rides with the guys who wanted to chat.
Anyway good luck. Bring comfortable shoes.
Ricardo
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