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Morante

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Algo simple

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Ricardo

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to Morante)

Ole!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 1 2023 11:47:00

Morante

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to Ricardo)

When I first arrived in Cádiz, I accompanied a cantaor por Alegrías, playing as in the video.

He said "Muy bien, tienes compás y los tonos son correctos. Pero lo que ha tocado no es Alegrías."

It took me a while to understand that what was missing was "soniquete¨. Something that you will not learn, practising in your bedroom.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 1 2023 16:33:19

Ricardo

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to Morante)

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ORIGINAL: Morante

When I first arrived in Cádiz, I accompanied a cantaor por Alegrías, playing as in the video.

He said "Muy bien, tienes compás y los tonos son correctos. Pero lo que ha tocado no es Alegrías."

It took me a while to understand that what was missing was "soniquete¨. Something that you will not learn, practising in your bedroom.

In Turkey I met a guy named Pico de Triana and accompanied him por bulerias. He said something similar that I am missing the “soniquete de Triana”. I asked him which accompanist had this elusive rhythmic expression whom I could listen to and study the toque. He replayed “no hay Nadie ni ninguna grabacion!!! Solo un tocaor en mi bodega en Triana!” … never the less it bothered me for years, until I lent my guitar to a tocaor from Triana playing for Maria Pages in Kennedy Center. I asked him about Pico and he knew him, and laughed when I asked about the “soniquete”. He said it was nothing, just play a bit slower that is all.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 1 2023 20:53:14

mecmachin

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to Morante)

I like his videos, as it is simple and practical stuff.
But I haven't seen any showing him with a singer...strange.

Anyway, here is one for you Morante

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 2 2023 22:59:23

Ricardo

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to mecmachin)

I think her recording engineer was teasing out the auto tuner and then fell asleep at the console, turning up to max accidentally.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 3 2023 15:18:37

mark indigo

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to Morante)

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Algo simple

about my level, thanks for posting, it's good to have recommendations!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 3 2023 21:32:47

orsonw

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to mark indigo)

Encarna Anillo showing the cante, a letra por alegrias

Recently they did a letra por tangos

And then here showing the tonos with the guitar in 4 different keys (not sure if keys is the right technical term? Should it be tonality?)

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 8 2023 11:58:09

Morante

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to orsonw)

Can't say I like her singing, demasiado lloranda, although her husband (from Peru) plays well. (Can´t say that in presence of the family)

Her brother José is a much better singer and I understand that he offers cante tuition en directo por internet, at a price.

They were both forced into flamenco by their father from a very young age.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 8 2023 16:57:11

mark indigo

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to Morante)

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her husband (from Peru)

does that matter? does it make a difference? I think he is Chileno btw

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 10 2023 21:29:53

mark indigo

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to orsonw)

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Encarna Anillo showing the cante, a letra por alegrias

Recently they did a letra por tangos

And then here showing the tonos with the guitar in 4 different keys (not sure if keys is the right technical term? Should it be tonality?)

thanks for those. I think using the term "keys" is fine.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 10 2023 21:35:59

Ricardo

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RE: Algo simple (in reply to mark indigo)

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ORIGINAL: mark indigo

quote:

her husband (from Peru)

does that matter? does it make a difference? I think he is Chileno btw

Right, Chileno. It does matter in the sense he admits the foreigner has more capability than the Gaditana inheritor of the arte. It is his opinion of course, a foreigner himself. Farruquito likes her cante, and his opinion counts as well.

. I had dinner with her years ago when she came to DC with Farruquito. She was super nice, and admitted her husband was struggling to find work in Spain (he probably could have done better in Chile), as a flamenco guitarist. Since then his YouTuber career seems to have been pretty successful. In general it is the musician’s and music teacher’s future, as we have been noticing.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 11 2023 12:55:09