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Ricardo
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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC
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 RE: palmas for bulerias (in reply to tk)
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Ricardo, but do you agree that the palmas in this video where you are playing is different than the one Grisha is suggesting?
To be crystal clear:
In the video you keep linking, that track is either my palmas or Todd’s palmas set to loops and then constructed randomly as a stereo track to play over top. It might be that is the same exact track Todd used for one of his own videos back in those years, I don’t remember. Realizing that the sound was not always 100% authentic sounding (mainly the looped bits are too short so it sounds “fake”), Todd later cut and pasted a bit from Poveda’s “Que borrachera” track where they were not singing. I remember the loop he created which lasted only a few minutes, started on count 3 (or 9, as they are a pattern of 6 as normal), and I was worried people practicing with it would think that was the 12 or 6. We (or I at least) used that track for many years to demonstrate short things or falsetas at a medium tempo with a true or authentic feel behind it that metronomes did not provide, nor most fake loop tracks. I was just pointing out that what Grisha posted sounds like the exact same track someone imported and extended.
You might realize that in the modern era the type of palmas Tomatito had going in that video, has gone extinct with most modern recordings preferring a more basic loop, so that the syncopations “pop” out. I agree that I prefer when the palmas dobles or straight time contratiempos lay down under the falsetas, at least in special spots. I guess you want that sound for practicing purposes without the pattern changing. I get it why you want that, even if it is not a practical request. I know that Dr. Compas would “improvise” patterns so you learn how to play against a percussion and palmas back up that is changing and not “arranged” to fit your falsetas perfectly. It was nice when the doble palmas came in in the right spot with your falseta. But the straight constant thing is pretty old fashioned and hard to find. I can only suggest creating it yourself if you really must have it to practice with. Perhaps someone can create a loop from the opening of the Tomatito track? Or just email Todd for cryin out loud! 
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