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devilhand

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The biggest deal in music for an ind...

https://www.reuters.com/lifestyle/bruce-springsteen-sells-song-catalog-sony-500-mln-deal-billboard-2021-12-16/

Oldies really cash in these days before retirement. Bob Dylan made a 300-400 million deal last year. I read somewhere Sting is in advanced talks to sell his masters for at least 250 million. I wonder how much flamenco greats like Paco and Sabicas would get for their entire music catalog and publishing rights today.

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: The biggest deal in music for an... (in reply to devilhand)

Sabicas didn't own the rights to most of his recorded stuff. He got paid for each LP that he recorded, probably cash. He recorded a lot of LPs. Played a lot of concerts, too.

He was also a very good poker player. In the early 1960s a friend of mine played in some of the bigger games in New York City. I heard the rumor that Sabicas played, and asked my friend.

"Short Spanish guy, wears a wig and a big diamond ring, people call him Gus? Yeah, he plays--and wins."

RNJ

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Ricardo

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RE: The biggest deal in music for an... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

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Sabicas didn't own the rights to most of his recorded stuff.

Paco same deal… most was owned by Phillips and later universal. The only thing I know he owned himself was sirocco (on Mercury records). I guess he was too lazy to do the same for Zyryab Luzia and Cositas Buenas.

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Morante

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RE: The biggest deal in music for an... (in reply to Ricardo)

But Paco´s father was a sin vergüensa: he tried to register tradicional letras as his own etc., so that he could claim the profits, which led to the poor reception of Paco at the funeral of Camaron in San Fernando: he was greeted by shouts of "Ladron" etc. I know, because I was there and it was not agreeable.

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Erik van Goch

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RE: The biggest deal in music for an... (in reply to Morante)

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ORIGINAL: Morante

But Paco´s father was a sin vergüensa: he tried to register tradicional letras as his own etc., so that he could claim the profits, which led to the poor reception of Paco at the funeral of Camaron in San Fernando: he was greeted by shouts of "Ladron" etc. I know, because I was there and it was not agreeable.

Didn't know that part, thought the problem was people didn't see that Paco's family received more money because they had more involvement (performing, composing, production etc.). Speaking about Camaron, Pepe Habichuela told me that when he accompanied him in a life performance Camaron made at least 6 times more money as Pepe if not more. Not sure that was the Camaron factor or the normal way money was split between singer and guitarist in that period of time*. The Stones happen to be Mick Jagger and band as well with Mick urning way more as the others.

In the Netherlands a famous radio dj who could make or break you used to force artists to name him as the actual text writer of the song. If you did he played you on the radio (collecting part of the royalties himself) if you refused you were not played in his program.

* Pepe also told that poverty was the rule back then... we were starving. Top level players used to offer their survices in special bars were they could be picked up by ritch people looking for artists to light up their parties. Artists lined up hoping to make some money like taxidrivers do at precent day. The bar did also facilitate rooms a party could be held.

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