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La seguiriya del Fillo
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Richard Jernigan
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From: Austin, Texas USA
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 RE: La seguiriya del Fillo (in reply to Morante)
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Norman Kliman's analysis of various styles of siguiriyas is quite extensive:
http://canteytoque.es/sigclas.htm
Two "El Fillos" are mentioned, father and son. The father was born 1806, the son in 1829. Both pre-date Silverio. Furthermore, though Silverio spent time with gitanos and began a career as cantaor before he left for Uruguay in 1856, his fame arose only after his return to Spain in 1864.
Silverio is generally believed to have been strongly influenced by El Fillo, though by which of the two seems not to be clearly understood. Though Silverio learned much of his cante from El Fillo, he was said to modify the palos considerably to his own taste.
Antonio Mairena is credited with "re-constructing" El Fillo's siguiriya, although the source is obscure, as is the case with many of Antonio's "re-constructions."
"Estamos convencidos de que el inmenso y genial cantaor Pepe Torre grabó no la cabal de El Planeta, sino su cabal de El Planeta, y que Tomás Pabón, el monstruo del cante gitano, grabó no el Reniego de Cagancho, sino su Reniego de Cagancho."*
RNJ
*Luis Soler Guevara and Ramón Soler Díaz in Antonio Mairena en el Mundo de la Siguiriya y la Soleá
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Date Dec. 7 2021 21:51:50
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Ricardo
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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC
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RE: La seguiriya del Fillo (in reply to Ricardo)
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This will be brief because I am headed to the Dominican Republic for a few days won’t be able to respond for a while.
I got out my guitar an analyzed all the Fillo styles, the silverio styles, and the Planeta in detail. I will just say Pena hijo is a fabulous singer. Anyway, to the point, first of all none of those cantes are “cabales” in the sense they are in the major key or major mode. Silverio 3 might enter the major key for a brief moment. Cabal I always thought of as the major key “macho” conclusion of siguiriyas and they are in major keys. Well my musician ear is telling a different story. Much like Martinete that uses melodic minor, natural minor, and Phrygian mixtures, that is how I am hearing all those styles labeled “Cabal”. The Planeta is funny because the guitar is simply in the wrong key based on what Pepe was singing. I used to think he was flat singing but when I got my guitar I realized he is singing a melody that is basically Aeolian or minor, and it might switch to Phrygian in spots. Regardless, the guitar chords are not correct and mislead the ear. Fillo 2 has the buleria corta type change, very dramatically calling the E dominant chord, however it reverts to Phrygian after that. Fillo 3 was really cool melody using melodic minor and changes to Aeolian briefly before the conclusion…very Martinete influenced. Fillo 1 is the typical siguiriyas style that emphasizes and cadences the C natural. Silverio 3 has a nice major tonic triad arpegio, but again is using D minor emphasis (they should be playing A to Dm NOT E and A chords!!!). But it does a nice A major happy ending thing going from E down to B natural up C# D etc before concluding. THat is the only melody the needs the E-A typical cabal chords at that point. More about this when I get back if you care.
Oh last thing…silverio 1 is like normal siguiriyas but I was shock to notice finally the second half is the same or based on the same melody as Manolo Sanlucar’s de capote solea por buleria sung by Indio Gitano. We only get Pepe matrona for that one but I would like to know if other singers interpret that as well.
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