RE: Arpeggio practice combinations

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Fluknu

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RE: Arpeggio practice combinations (in reply to fevictor)

And the one where the thumb is doing two (or more notes), like ppami or ppima ?
I've seen many falsetas using this one, and I find it sometimes difficult to be on time with it. Does it have a name?

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Stu

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RE: Arpeggio practice combinations (in reply to Fluknu)

do you have any examples of this?

Ive not really seen this.

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orsonw

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RE: Arpeggio practice combinations (in reply to Stu)

ppi is common in Jerez. All the Moraos use it, especially in seguiriyas but also solea por buleria.

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Stu

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RE: Arpeggio practice combinations (in reply to orsonw)

I like these videos. thanks.

However...is that really whats happening? ppi?

and even if it is... is that classed as an arpeggio?

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devilhand

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RE: Arpeggio practice combinations (in reply to Stu)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Stu

I like these videos. thanks.

However...is that really whats happening? ppi?

and even if it is... is that classed as an arpeggio?

Not really. It's personlized pi technique from Morao clan. Discussed here

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=330989&p=2&tmode=1&smode=1

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Stu

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RE: Arpeggio practice combinations (in reply to devilhand)

cool thanks!

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Ricardo

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RE: Arpeggio practice combinations (in reply to Stu)

quote:

However...is that really whats happening? ppi?

and even if it is... is that classed as an arpeggio?

p-i-p, p-i-p, etc. triplet.

Majority of the time p drags across adjacent strings. Occasionally double p stroke are required, sometimes a golpe. Occasionally pull-offs affect the rhythm so a double i stroke is required (up down usually) to fill in the rhythm. Mixing all that stuff can be very tricky timing-wise. Also the same technique might be at once a triplet or sextuplet phrase, but used in a different palo as 16ths (4 per beat), so even more synchopated and tricky than normal. My reference is mainly manual Morao who I feel had the most sophisticated use of the technique (it probably derives from his teacher Javier Molina).

Arpegio is a musical term that means notes of a chord played separately or in sequence. Indeed the above tech is used that way often. However the main concept is that the melody is a bass line melody, so hence some bass line melodies reappear in modern toque as Alzapua. So most players probably view this as old fashioned alzapua.

To guitar players “arpegio” is also a technique, such as ami repeating. This technique can be used to play musical lines that are not broken chords so a distinction needs to be made when talking guitar.

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