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ernandez R
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 RE: Felipe Conde video (in reply to constructordeguitarras)
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Ethan,
Thanx for posting this.
I think the part about time is crucial. I was shocked actually, I race and race, I've raced through thirteen guitars and feel my next need to be made slower. Luthiery has been the ultimate test of my patience and when I look at my best guitar I feel I've failed.
I've spent the small bit of spare time I've had the last two weeks in the shop resawing red and yellow cedar, many times I've just sat there and watched the wood work its way through the band saw blade, slice after slice, but mostly I set the wood up and the gravity feed, then raced to my next chore letting the cut off switch kill the saw and vacuum. one hundred and twenty or so slices: three red cedar top billets, two yellow cedar back, and two long rib length yellow ones.
I was just telling the Boss how I relished the processe and wished I could have sat there and watched each slice, the OCD slightly idiot savant mind of mine feels a kind of comfort in these tasks, the calm waiting as the wood makes its way an inch every five or six seconds, then the rush to reset the stops and shorten the quite time to it's absolute minimum, refining each move into a compact set of motions. A dance. I hate the noise but besides the movement and sawdust it's another form of progress. Eliminate the blur of the blade teeth and the aroma of the heated pitch fuming within the kerf and all you have is the song of wood making its first hint of music, a perfect pitch noted by frequencies: the amalgamation of blade teeth and tension bowing millimeter slices higher and higher as the cut uncloses.
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I prefer my flamenco guitar spicy,
doesn't have to be fast,
should have some meat on the bones,
can be raw or well done,
as long as it doesn't sound like it's turning green on an elevator floor.
www.instagram.com/threeriversguitars
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Date Aug. 7 2021 8:07:00
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Echi
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RE: Felipe Conde video (in reply to constructordeguitarras)
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It’s not easy to keep high prices for flamenco guitars and sell many of them throughout the world. Seriously I mean.
Felipe has always been gifted in the promotion of his guitars and part of his ability is to constantly feed the Esteso myth: that wow effect you have with Conde.
It takes good work to keep alive the flame of Esteso, Paco, the old traditions, modelo Morao (I tried one btw) modelo Paco, now limited gold edition of the Paco model with sequoia top… videos with the 3 guys building etc.
It’s funny that Mariano has much more players in the belt than Felipe (Guerrero, Valencia, Riqueni, Lora, Javier Conde, Bandera) but he is not good at all with marketing, particularly internationally, as this aspect has always been managed by Felipe, since the times of Calle Felipe V.
Felipe is a man of public relations as Faustino was. To sell is an art.
Don’t mean the guitars or Felipe are bad, they are actually good, and won’t enter again in che usual discussion about the makers etc.
Recent Conde Atocha are praised by many: Rafael Cortez is a proud sponsor of Atocha (he just had a Sanchis Cortez
Model and didn’t promote it as he wants to play just his Atocha), Juan Habichuela, Chicuelo etc.
The top model are actually handmade in Madrid by 3 good luthiers.
Jesus de Jimenez, Teodoro Perez and Pedro Muriel are among the best you can get.
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Date Aug. 8 2021 7:38:09
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Echi
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RE: Felipe Conde video (in reply to constructordeguitarras)
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Well, this 3D is not offensive of the reputation of Felipe.
I for one purposely said he makes good guitars, which is what should matter.
Regarding the rumors, it’s part of the story with Conde since the times of the old Gravina shop.
Not only with Conde, but also with other famous Spanish makers. With different shades (and a quite wide range) you can count in the club Contreras, Bernabé, Gerundino, Hernandez y Aguado, Arcangel, and the list is still long.
It’s just the reality of a way to do business of someone in Spain which some people abroad don’t understand and try to elaborate with their own moral standards.
Then, I don’t doubt many are good people and workers committed in making the best guitars they can.
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Date Aug. 9 2021 10:41:27
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Plazoleño
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RE: Felipe Conde video (in reply to constructordeguitarras)
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There are more pro playing Mariano
Manuel Valencia , pedro sierra (a veces) , Antonio higuero , antonio Sanchez ...
and above all, the one we see in the film Manuel Parrilla , he played some 2 years with the felipe negra, which gave him, but he no longer has it and he now plays on Mariano blanca.
I have tried several of the two brothers, and I much prefer the Mariano.
of course there is rycardo moreno, diego del morao and pepe fernandez who sometimes play on the paco de lucia’s felipe model, but i think it is a commercial arrangement with solera flamenca ...
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Date Aug. 14 2021 21:36:34
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ernandez R
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RE: Felipe Conde video (in reply to constructordeguitarras)
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Ok, it's never been clear to me, do any of the three people in the video at the top of this thread actually build guitars today?
The marketing is slick that's for sure. Young lady with poke a dot see through blouse, check. Young emo-esc dude with pants hanging half off his ass, check. It be honest after I thought about it both the kids show no more skill then those nubies in one of those three day guitar building videos that guy shilling for LMI is always posting on social media. I want to see them build a guitar from start to finish then hand it over to some players to wring out.
Like I wrote up thread I was captivated by the idea they posit about time, how it takes time to hand make a guitar, I know, most of my wood comes from logs or the firewood pile, and while its true mine might sound like fire wood, that's besides the point. My greatest lesson in lutherie is patience and taking the time to make it right every step of the way. I'm still not there.
There is a violin Luither I fallow on Instagram, she keeps a build book of every step from start to finish and hands it to the owner of each instrument she builds. I could do the same and think I would like to see the same from each so called "master" before paying $10-15k for a so called hand built instrument. I'm I crazy?
Anyway, just my two cents,
HR
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I prefer my flamenco guitar spicy,
doesn't have to be fast,
should have some meat on the bones,
can be raw or well done,
as long as it doesn't sound like it's turning green on an elevator floor.
www.instagram.com/threeriversguitars
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Date Aug. 16 2021 5:27:31
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RobF
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RE: Felipe Conde video (in reply to Ricardo)
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quote:
Maybe he has help but Jesus whoever is the “helper” is no joke.
I suspect he has access to advice from the best of the best of the older Madrid makers.
When I visited, Manuel Cáseres was hanging out in the shop - as a matter of fact, it was he who saw me peering into the basement window and waved me in. They welcomed me into their shop with warmth and, in the hours I spent there, we looked over some of their recent wood purchases, chatted about various bracing styles and dimensioning strategies, and basically just hung out until closing time in an atmosphere that was congenial, open, and friendly. Afterwards, Filipe Jr took me on a small Tapas crawl and walking tour of old Madrid. When I remarked that they were treating me like royalty, which I found astounding, his response was that we both love making guitars, this is fun, and what more reason do we need? All in all, we spent about six hours hanging out together and all I can say about it is I really like that guy and I wish him the best.
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