Picado on Electric Guitar

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Pgh_flamenco

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Picado on Electric Guitar

The guitarist is Matteo Mancuso.

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rombsix

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

Seen him before - he's amazing! I wonder if it's all two-finger picado or if he uses three-finger picado also.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 3 2021 15:16:14

Pgh_flamenco

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to rombsix)

On some of the speed bursts, when he switches from ascending to descending a scale, it looks like he's using three fingers, but other times he appears to be using IM. He has a lot of other videos. Steve Vai did a video about Matteo and it was clear that Vai was quite intimidated by Matteo's ability as a guitarist.

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JasonM

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

Definitely the next Paco de Lucia!

Al di Meola mentioned him as well. this guy is in his 20’s I think and already pretty darn advanced

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

Grisha and Jerome Mouffe doing some three-finger scales—or is it four-finger... Grisha said the first time he met Jerome his new friend played "The Flight of the Bumblebee." Grisha decided he needed to learn it. The next time they got together, Grisha played "The Flight..." Then they worked out their duo arrangement.

We were there. The video is a single take—no editing—by Austin Classical Guitar Society’s photographer, in Jeff and Gail Kodosky’s living room.

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kitarist

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Richard Jernigan)

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Grisha and Jerome Mouffe doing some three-finger picado.

I came across this a couple of months ago and decided it was actually tirando tremolo technique (pami cycles for scale runs). But maybe I was wrong?

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Richard Jernigan

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to kitarist)

I think you’re right. Thinking it over my memory was refreshed. I logged on to correct my post, only to see you had already noted my error. Thanks for the correction.

RNJ

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ORIGINAL: kitarist

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Grisha and Jerome Mouffe doing some three-finger picado.

I came across this a couple of months ago and decided it was actually tirando tremolo technique (pami cycles for scale runs). But maybe I was wrong?

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Ricardo

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to kitarist)

The mute helps the articulation. I would like to hear it without honestly.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 4 2021 14:14:38

devilhand

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

What's wrong with you guys? Don't act like you just saw picado for the first time. It's not even fast. This is the real deal.

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Definitely the next Paco de Lucia!

LoL

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estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

I heard an interview with Pat Methany ( Pat Methane) he called flamenco ‘flamingo’. You can’t be too careful with jazz people.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 4 2021 15:50:16

estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

If he just used a pick and dug in more and laid back softly as a contrast the music would be more colorful and better articulated. More virtuoso masturbation worship.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 4 2021 15:53:45

estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

The remedy for this disappointment is to get half drunk and listen to Chet Baker.

Next.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 4 2021 15:56:20

JasonM

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

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If he just used a pick and dug in more

Yeah it sounds a little soft, but it’s kinda novel. Probably can’t have much of a nail on electric guitar.

That’s funny because Pat Methane and Vicente Amigo have had a bromance over the years.

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JasonM

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to devilhand)

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This is the real deal.

If Paco were still here and saw this kid he would probably throw in the towel and quit playing..I’ll never be good at guitar

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estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to JasonM)

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Paco were still here and saw this kid he would probably throw in the towel and quit playing..I’ll never be good at guitar

Meh, old Sabicas gives this guy a goal to reach. And Paco Cepero..

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estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to JasonM)

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That’s funny because Pat Methane and Vicente Amigo have had a bromance over the years.

Methane wrote this piece for the LA guitar quartet and it had a big section of rasgueado and he stipulated, not like flamingo.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 4 2021 16:51:53

Morante

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

Is picado really so important?

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JasonM

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

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Meh, old Sabicas gives this guy a goal to reach. And Paco Cepero..

I’m just pullin Devilhands chains

Is Picado important? Yes. I mean No... I don’t know. We all want what we can’t have I suppose? Unless you don’t want. I would like my gut to go away but I don’t want to stop eating sugar.

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kitarist

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

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ORIGINAL: estebanana

I heard an interview with Pat Methany ( Pat Methane) he called flamenco ‘flamingo’. You can’t be too careful with jazz people.

..or with metal people. Here Metallica's bass guitarist Rob Trujillo does some picado on what looks like a nylon string guitar while frontman James Hetfield is impressed.

At around 0:45 Kirk Hammett, who just entered, asks "What's going on?" and James replies 'He's a good.. flamengouh.. flamingouh.. player!'

Then, at around 1:54 talking to Lars Ulrich, James again says "..flamingouh man here.."

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estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to kitarist)

Methane-san wrote a piece for Jason Vieaux based on the metal band Pantera guitarists licks. Vieaux can really play metal, he did that as a teenager. It’s great piece, I heard excerpts in the interview of Methane-san after this recording came out recently. He wrote music for the LA guitar quartet and Vieaux.

He tried to get LAGQ to play with thumb over the fingerboard to get certain voicings and they unanimously said no, that’s one technical boundary. I thought that was wise. The piece with the flamenco like strumming is the least interesting however, it sounds like a bunch of hippies in a park with guitars and tambourine bongos.

Picado on electrical guitar, why bother? Reverend Gary Davis, barely touches the guitar and all kinds of sounds come out. We’ve gotten to a place that’s weirdly appreciative of spectacle over what’s actually good.

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estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

Watch the opening chords Hooker plays- if you think picado is bad ass try this~

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estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Pgh_flamenco)

One finger is better than three-

This is a left hand

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kitarist

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

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We’ve gotten to a place that’s weirdly appreciative of spectacle over what’s actually good.

I agree completely.

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estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to kitarist)

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.or with metal people. Here Metallica's bass guitarist Rob Trujillo does some picado on what looks like a nylon string guitar while frontman James Hetfield is impressed.

At around 0:45 Kirk Hammett, who just entered, asks "What's going on?" and James replies 'He's a good.. flamengouh.. flamingouh.. player!'

Then, at around 1:54 talking to Lars Ulrich, James again says "..flamingouh man here.."

I used to work at a restaurant that was next to their rehearsal space. I was loading out some stuff on the back dock into truck and they were all standing around a trailer with equipment packed on it. I asked a stupid question, not having any idea who they were and they all looked at me one of them said something like I don’t know. And it wasn’t until years later I realized who they were. I thought they were some garage band.

Ben Woods could show them a few things. The great thing about Metallica is that at one time they hired a psychologist to work with them on group therapy, like a four way marriage counseling. Eventually they got wise to him and accused him of stirring up trouble between them to make himself more needed as a moderator of the group therapy. So they fired him. It was a documentary. Very funny stuff.

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agujetas

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

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Ben Woods could show them a few things.

Yeah I’m sure that will be keeping the Grammy award winning, multi-millionaires awake at night.

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estebanana

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to agujetas)

They were the highest paid act in the world in the 90’s and they know who he is.

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kitarist

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

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The great thing about Metallica is that at one time they hired a psychologist to work with them on group therapy, like a four way marriage counseling. Eventually they got wise to him and accused him of stirring up trouble between them to make himself more needed as a moderator of the group therapy. So they fired him. It was a documentary. Very funny stuff.

I own the DVD and have watched it several times over the years

I think the guy was getting paid something like $40,000/month so I guess he was tempted to keep it going as long as possible...

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Ricardo

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to Morante)

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ORIGINAL: Morante

Is picado really so important?

Look, the fast runs are always a goal for top level artists. I just want to get my fingers going as fast as Aurelio’s scale at 2:38 here during Paquiri style Soleá when he says “cirujano”.... it is indeed like surgery to get a good clear picado run like that:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date May 12 2021 12:24:59

lamorenitaflamenca

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RE: Picado on Electric Guitar (in reply to estebanana)

He’s quite a thing in Italy, he is from Palermo. But I agree that he is stuck between jazz and blues with lots of very fast flashy kind of picado scales but he would have more soul if he dumped them and played with more slow feelings.

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