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mrstwinkle

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RE: Festival Jerez (in reply to kitarist)

If you choose to ignore the main body of the article explaining why this is overly simplistic.

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Ricardo

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RE: Festival Jerez (in reply to mrstwinkle)

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ORIGINAL: mrstwinkle

If you choose to ignore the main body of the article explaining why this is overly simplistic.

Rather than try in vain to show “nothing big deal is happening and responses to it are exaggerated”, which is pointless mathematically, why not simply point to the hypocracy? THAT is easy to do. Go to a grocery store but not a restaurant? Or ride an airplane, political gathering etc, but you can’t go to a concert with a mask? Political charged people are “trustworthy” but concert goers are NOT? Makes zero sense. ZERO SENSE.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 17 2021 15:34:04

Escribano

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RE: Festival Jerez (in reply to Ricardo)

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Go to a grocery store but not a restaurant?

Grocery stores are rather important in a lockdown, restaurants less so. Protest is enshrined, concerts less so.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 17 2021 18:32:28

Mark2

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RE: Festival Jerez (in reply to Escribano)

It has been interesting to see who has been allowed to operate and who hasn't. I own a flooring company, and we are considered essential by the city of San Francisco. I've had contracts with SF international airport that called for emergency response, but my view has always been that there is no such thing as a carpet related emergency, so I was a bit surprised we were allowed to operate. Essential to change out your carpet? Really? Not that many clients wanted work done last spring and summer. Fall and winter weren't any better. And this year we are down 50% vs. YTD last year. I think it could be some time before things return to pre covid levels. I'm fortunate in that I've been very conservative with cash flow, so my company is going to survive.

OTOH, flooring companies in some other states were ordered to close, but they let Home Depot stay open, and sell flooring. Flooring dealers in those states protested, and at least one state decided HD could still stay open but not sell flooring. That is crazy. Other states never ordered flooring stores to close, and many outfits that focus on residential business had a good year as homeowners stuck at home wanted to fix up their spaces.

Shutting down restaurants has been life changing for many, including a buddy who owns a wholesale food distribution company-his primary clients are restaurants. Many restaurants, including some large chains will never recover. The iconic Cliff house in SF has closed, the park service, who owns the building, couldn't come to terms with the operator who leased the building for over 40 years. I don't know how they expected him to pay rent when he couldn't open.

My full time musician buddies-I have no idea how they are eating. Just wiped out, and who knows when that will become a viable profession again.

OTOH, I've managed to avoid contracting the virus for a year, as have most of us, so it's difficult to second guess decisions made by officials who, in fairness, were guessing and hoping themselves. But, as far as protests, I think the government should have enforced the same restrictions on all public gatherings, regardless of the reason for them. There needs to be equity in enforcement of the law, or the public will continue to lose respect for it. Personally, when I see the governor of California ignore a law he doesn't agree with, I feel like I have the same right.

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ORIGINAL: Escribano

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Go to a grocery store but not a restaurant?

Grocery stores are rather important in a lockdown, restaurants less so. Protest is enshrined, concerts less so.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 17 2021 19:56:46

kitarist

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RE: Festival Jerez (in reply to mrstwinkle)

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ORIGINAL: mrstwinkle

If you choose to ignore the main body of the article explaining why this is overly simplistic.

Ah, yes, the Swedes' covid policy cannot fail, it can only be failed. Or, alternatively, maybe they did the wrong thing and that is obvious by comparing the mortality statistics for the Nordic countries. We'll never know.

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Piwin

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RE: Festival Jerez (in reply to Ricardo)

The one that didn't make much sense to me over here is last spring when they started to allow people to go out but they had still closed all the parks, squares, etc. As a result people congregated en masse in the few nice areas that were open (like the paths along the rio Manzanares). It seemed like they thought closing the parks would prevent people from congregating, but it ended up having the opposite effect, by funnelling more people in a limited amount of open spaces.

But dunno. Hypocrisy isn't all that high on my list. I'm sure politicians tried to score some political points by publicly supporting X and not Y or whatever, but that's just business as usual really. To me the bigger issue was just lack of communication. Even now with the vaccine roll-out it's very difficult to know what is going on. Some of that is just a reflection of the fact that it's a rapidly evolving situation. But I think some of it might also be a failure on the part of public authorities to find ways to properly communicate.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 18 2021 6:39:44