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Turning the wrist on arpeggios and picado
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XXX
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Ok I have a little problem. I noticed almost anybody who uploaded a video has a straight wrist, or it is turned towards the strings. I also have my wrist like that. Now I experience some problems, when I want to do an arpeggio pami,pami on the strings 1,2,3,4, all equal tempo. Then also when I play picado + one note on a bass string its not easy either. I noticed when I turn my wrist, like in the picture then it helps me with the picado. But doing arpeggio with that hurts a little, because then I hit the strings in an orthogonal angle and I feel that I cant dig into the strings as I want. Same thing goes for picado, but in arpeggios this is more of an issue. Hope some of you can help me there. My former teacher told me to turn the wrist a little. But it feels akward to hit the strings with that angle... Besides I dont think its too healthy for the nails.. I just dont know what to think Ps: I chose this picture because I guess he was doing an arpeggio there.
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Date Mar. 5 2006 20:50:28
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Miguel de Maria
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RE: Turning the wrist on arpeggios a... (in reply to XXX)
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Everyone probably has to deal with it one way or another. Ron's comment was interesting. From what I understand, current classical guitar technique is generally taught using one position for arpeggios and scales. Supposedly rest strokes are almost extinct. I saw the Concierto de Aranjuez a week ago played by a young Croatian (I think), and he didn't seem to change position--it was all free strokes. As you would expect, the sound is rather homogenous. The runs did not have the power you want and you get from aggressive rest strokes. I have also heard that modern flamenco is moving toward this "ideal". I guess part of it is physiology, and part of it is how much you want to emphasize certain aspects of technique. You could probably play alzapua from an arpeggio position, but maybe not ever be able to get a full sound from it. And you can probably master scales and picado from several different angles, with of course several different techniques. Personally, I feel there is a definite shift in position and "gear" when I switch from arpeggio/rasguead to picado, for example in Panaderos Flamencos. The transitions are tricky and have to be practiced for me.
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Date Mar. 5 2006 22:55:37
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Jamey
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RE: Turning the wrist on arpeggios a... (in reply to XXX)
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This discussion always seems to come up. I think it stems from classical guitar. Seriously, look at a player like El Niño Josele, no classical positioning, no "right way" of holding his hands, he's just bloody well all over the place. Yet he's amazing, has an incredible command of tone, volume, and can completely change his sound while playing. He bounces all over the place when playing, his hand position seems to be in constant change. Works for him. Go with what works for you and practice/experiment with tone while doing it. Don't worry about this angle or that angle, just be comfortable. Playing shouldn't cause pain in your wrists etc. To get a glimpse of Niño Josele's playing, rent or by "Los Almendros-Plaza Nueva" (short film, sometimes comes with the "Vengo" DVD) and/or "Blanco Y Negro - Bebo Valdes and Cigala" (Josele accompanies Cigala). - Jamey
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Date Mar. 7 2006 0:07:05
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