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mark indigo

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Ruphus)

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As fellow members seem to agree with what Mark Indigo attests, I suppose that you won´t really mind if I step out of this forum.

I would not want to be harassing people with unbearably faulty language, superseded by vastly superior, crappy translation.

All the best to the community!

I would mind, especially if my post led you to make that decision. I've been a member since 2007 and have never mentioned it before, because I have never felt it to be a problem, even if I can't follow what's being said. Like I said before, kudos to anyone writing in a second language. I think most people understand you, so don't worry about that. But you did ask for feedback on your translation....

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mark indigo

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Ricardo)

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Look, language is meant for communication. As far as English goes once you learn the rules some British guy with a stick up his butt designed a long time ago, you are free to do what you want to get the point across.

agree

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I could give a rats ass about rules when trying to communicate online. It’s hard enough as it is. So getting used to various personal writing styles is a necessity.

agree

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Paul Magnussen

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to mark indigo)

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did you mean "I couldn't give a rats ass about rules..."?

This is American usage. Steve Pinker defends it at length in The Language Instinct* (although I beg to remain unconvinced).

*p. 377 in the hardback version (1st edition).

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 29 2020 17:36:52

mark indigo

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Paul Magnussen)

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This is American usage.

I just edited my post to take that bit out 'cos I thought maybe it was US usage. Talking to some American friends we discussed a lot of very similar phrases and sayings etc. with sometimes subtle differences. They said we are "One people divided by a common language"

I also understand that far from the way stuck up brits like to portray American English as having corrupted and degraded the language, in actual fact American English preserves some archaic, and therefore more "original" expressions. So could give a whatever is maybe the original way of saying what I hear and say as couldn't give a whatever?

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Paul Magnussen

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mark indigo

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Paul Magnussen)

really, there's no need to repeat that crap, please delete it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 29 2020 17:50:51

Paul Magnussen

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to mark indigo)

As you wish.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 29 2020 17:57:15

Piwin

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Paul Magnussen)

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As you wish.

At least some of the Americans on here should get that gif. Or so I've been told, by an ex of mine who was rather obsessed with that movie

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But this is really just an excuse to let all hell break loose. I posted a gif to ask: how do you pronounce "gif"?

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kitarist

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to JasonM)

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ORIGINAL: JasonM

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Here's something interesting:

If it’s out there you can be sure Konstantin will find it!

Actually I wasn't looking to find this at all. It all happened because I doubted this 'Windows convertible' business and googled reviews of the same laptop to see if it really is what people are calling it; it made no sense to me. It was immediately clear that this was not a phrase in general use; people called it Microsoft convertible or laptop convertible or similar (i.e. referencing the hardware, correctly). However, the phrase did pop up in practically a single review article - that same one that turned out to have eerie structural similarity with the OP's translation. In that article, they did generally call it Microsoft convertible, but in a few paragraphs - same ones as the OP's - they randomly switched to 'Windows convertible.' BTW that article was posted on Jun 27 - almost a month before the trollish ask for an opinion here. Ricardo sniffed Der Mist out, but I stepped in it nicely.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 30 2020 3:51:12

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Piwin)

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At least some of the Americans on here should get that gif. Or so I've been told, by an ex of mine who was rather obsessed with that movie .

I watched that movie about 50 times when I was a kid. I'm not saying I named my son after the main character but I'm not saying I didn't do that either...

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Ricardo

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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ORIGINAL: Andy Culpepper

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At least some of the Americans on here should get that gif. Or so I've been told, by an ex of mine who was rather obsessed with that movie .

I watched that movie about 50 times when I was a kid. I'm not saying I named my son after the main character but I'm not saying I didn't do that either...

You named your son “buttercup”?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2020 18:45:34

Piwin

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

Dread Pirate Culpepper? Or perhaps:

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 4 2020 22:14:14

JasonM

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Piwin)

Yup I watched it many times. Only recently learned that Mandy Patinkin played the Spanish dude. Andre the giant was played by Andre the giant.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 5 2020 0:45:45

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Ricardo)

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You named your son “buttercup”?

I 100% predicted someone was going to be a smartass and say that. I don't consider her the main character. Piwin is much closer (I don't know who that is in the picture though).

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 6 2020 3:04:44

Andy Culpepper

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to JasonM)

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Yup I watched it many times. Only recently learned that Mandy Patinkin played the Spanish dude. Andre the giant was played by Andre the giant.

When I watched Homeland I was like "hey, that guy looks familiar from something"... then I realized it

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 6 2020 3:05:48

Piwin

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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I don't know who that is in the picture though

A character from Star Trek Next Generation named Wesley.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 6 2020 3:48:27

Ricardo

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RE: Language expertise needed (in reply to Andy Culpepper)

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I 100% predicted someone was going to be a smartass and say that

It’s just a ball on a T, perfect set up, sitting there inviting me.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 6 2020 12:41:38