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Jon Boyes

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Joined: Jul. 10 2003

Why forums like this are REALLY useful

Plenty of people, musos included, look down their noses at Internet forums as if they are nerdy places for people with no friends who don't have a life.

Thats fine by me.. apart from the fact that I now work in a duo with someone I met from this forum, I have just negotiated the gig of my life (in terms of fee) with someone I met through a rock guitar forum a few years back. The guy emailed me out of the blue and asked if I wanted to play at a big trade show in London for two days. Apart from the big fee, they'll be putting me up in a flash hotel, all expenses paid etc.

So there you go, it pays to hang out in places like this

(thats not even considering what you can learn).

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 10:33:16

Ramin

Posts: 103
Joined: Mar. 15 2005
From: Toronto, Canada

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

Jon,

I myself am not a big fan of internet forums. I think the people in general are being driven to isolation by all these chat/friendship/forum sites or by the "misuse" of new technologies (e.g., cell phones, email, etc.).

This being said, I do agree with you that there are "useful" forum such as this one that contain a wealth of information and experience for beginners like myself and provide exposure for vetrans like yourself. I think in the end it the true value of anything depends very much on how we use or misuse it.

Ramin

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 14:11:45

Ricardo

Posts: 14822
Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

I personally spend more time than I should on this board and others, but I have met a lot of great people and learned a lot of stuff, and enjoy listening and talking to people I can't meet face to face.

I have met and played with Todd, breifly with Patrick, and others from other boards, because of these boards. I have communicated and traded things with friends here privately (Ron, Tom Nunez, Florian, etc). For that reason alone it makes it worth it. Also, if it weren't for Conrad's transcriptions, I probably would not have learned some of that music, because of my own laziness. At least these are excuses I give my wife who is yelling at me to get off the computer right NOW!

Ok see you later.
Ricardo

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 19:33:11

Escribano

Posts: 6415
Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Ricardo)

quote:

I personally spend more time than I should on this board

You should try my seat

Forums are the next big thing on the Web - a group of well-qualified and committed people that can become friends and build a community. I will be crashing with Fergusito in Jerez next week, for example. Flamenco is a lifestyle, after all

But, in every community, it's down to its citizens.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 19:41:12

ToddK

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Joined: Dec. 6 2004

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

I spend way too much time on the forums.

It takes up alot of my time. But i do my best to
not let it eat in to my practice/study time.

I have learned so much the last few years on
these forums, its unbelievable.

And similar to Jon, ive also landed some pretty sweet gigs.
I hang out at SoundsOnLine.com and recently got hired to
do some nylon string tracks for a Cannes film festival trailer in Barcelona.
That came from posting my guitar clips and soundtracks on that forum.

I also now do demos for East West, wich is the biggest sample library
maker in the biz right now
http://www.soundsonline.com/sophtml/demolist.phtml?sku=EW-163
Scroll down to see my demo's under T. Kreuzburg.

Not to mention a list of other jobs and contacts ive made, just through
forums and email.
Pretty f'ing cool.

Forums= good.

TK

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 19:56:58

Escribano

Posts: 6415
Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to ToddK)

quote:

I hang out at SoundsOnLine.com and recently got hired to
do some nylon string tracks for a Cannes film festival trailer in Barcelona

Way to go Todd! That is a lucrative market because original soundtracks are difficult to acquire for filmmakers. Well done!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 20:02:44

ToddK

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Joined: Dec. 6 2004

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

Yeah, pretty sweet.

I'd love to post the tune, but im afraid its against the darn law

Well, if you go to Cannes this year, you'll hear it.

TK

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 20:16:02

Escribano

Posts: 6415
Joined: Jul. 6 2003
From: England, living in Italy

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to ToddK)

quote:

Well, if you go to Cannes this year, you'll hear it.

Well, funnily enough I am going this year - which film, send me an email?

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 20:24:47

ToddK

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Joined: Dec. 6 2004

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

Its in one of the animated trailers.
It will be shown before numerous films.
I'll see if i can find out more.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 20:57:59

Ron.M

Posts: 7051
Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Scotland

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to ToddK)

Hi Todd,
That's some really great news man!
So glad that the work is coming in!
You definitely deserve it.

cheers

Ron

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 21:22:43

Patrick

Posts: 1189
Joined: Jul. 7 2003
From: Portland, Oregon

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

Todd,

Weren't you doing a project for ESPN as well?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 22:25:01

carlos soto

Posts: 126
Joined: Oct. 22 2005

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

That's cool man! I just listen to dreaming in chinese, I'm no expert in midi but the articulations were amazingly accurate.
I'm saving money to get the symphony o. library, so damn expensive

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 23:08:50

Miguel de Maria

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Joined: Oct. 20 2003
From: Phoenix, AZ

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

This may be offtopic, but I was watching the Olympics, and the skating dancing pairs had a bit of flamenco in it. The American couple did their final routine to a montage of flamenco....a solea intro, bulerias, etc.! I don't think they really knew the compas though...she was clapping her hands at weird times.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 22 2006 23:18:36

Kate

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Joined: Jul. 8 2003
From: Living in Granada, Andalucía

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

Just to add my 2 centimos. I organised the whole Taller de Compás tour of the US and Canada because I connected with the festival organisers on a world music forum and got everyone enthusiastic about the project and the music.

Well done Todd for the Cannes film. And Simon you are so jetset

Also I'm looking forward to meeting the forum members at Jerez Festival next week.

Kate

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 23 2006 8:02:29

Guest

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

Well, This Forum (and others) are pretty good for my business to.

Even though I share Ramins opinion on forum/chat/friendship sites, I must admit that my life is getting more and more conected to the internet.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 23 2006 8:47:20

Gecko

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Joined: Jan. 2 2006
From: New Mexico

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Jon Boyes

Plenty of people, musos included, look down their noses at Internet forums as if they are nerdy places for people with no friends who don't have a life.

Well, those same people had ought to live in my corner of the world, "Flyover," New Mexico, USA and see who they can find to have a discussion of flamenco with. So, far the only being I have found that has any interest in flamenco at all is my cat, Ernie. Strange too, because only 150 miles away there are two very active flamenco communities.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 23 2006 9:44:47

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 23 2006 12:41:21

edgar884

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Joined: Nov. 16 2005

RE: Why forums like this are REALLY ... (in reply to Jon Boyes)

Sometimes I spend to much time on this forum and I think maybe I'm missing out on good practice. But honestly I have learned more about Flamenco from the advice and oppinions
on this site than I could with 100 hours of master classes. If you can let down your gaurd and take the critisism lightly but seriously you can really perfect your art of flamenco.

Off the subject a little. I've taken the different oppinions on Alzapua from Duende, Ricardo, Calvin Hazen and Chuscales and I'm realizing that with hard work you can become a flamenco guitar player. I've been doing this for 1 year seriously and I can't believe how far I've come. ( I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT WHEN YOU LISTEN TO PEOPLE INSTEAD OF GETTING OFFENDED YOU CAN GROW)
A major part of this, aside from practicing my ass off, is the advice and honest oppinions from all the great people on this forum.

So yes were all Flamenco forum nerds, but we are getting really good at what we do and were helping each other to become better musicians. Honey are you going to get of that damn computer. I hear that all the time, but with out guitar I would go crazy and she knows it.

I enjoy getting recognition for my playing, and helping others.
We all check our posts hoping to get noticed, but sometimes we really do just enjoy helping each other or we wouldn't be here. I know because the people that just post to show off or get a rise out of someone never last or post as guests.

I'm addicted and hope that years down the road someone will say hey, I remember that guy he was a classical player that stuck with it and has become a great flamenco player.

So anyway hats off to all the members and thank you.

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