RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run.

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Elie

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Florian)

quote:

Does this look right to you ?

the exact way I did them

the metronome issue is really weird , each time he starts on a different beat
your idea about the metronome is great

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 23 2012 8:49:46

johnnefastis

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

What notes are you folks playing apoyando in Arpegio Combinado ?

the pattern is

a m i p i m a m i
p

I have been doing (apoyando in caps)

A m i P i m A m i
P

But it just occured to me it could be done in all sorts of other ways

A m i P i m A M I
P

or

A m i p i m a m i
P

or somewhere between.

Thanks

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 24 2012 13:30:14

Elie

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

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What notes are you folks playing apoyando in Arpegio Combinado ?

I'm just playing tirando (free-stroke)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2012 11:19:12

johnnefastis

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

Elie yours sounds great and you can hear the melody stand out but I assumed Arpegio Combinado meant combining Arpegio with some picado. I know a Sabicas Solea falsetta that is definitely that way.. Arpegio with apoyando A finger.

Florian what are you playing here ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Aug. 25 2012 13:17:02

Elie

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

johnnefastis thanx man !! how are you finding the Arpeggio doble #7 ?

practicing it up to speed is pretty tough for me !!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 3 2012 9:15:23

johnnefastis

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

Hi Elie, and anyone else following this thread.

You just reminded me that you are still using these exercises.

Just wondering what you thoughts are now ?

I know and work through all the exercises until the tremolo
This piece seems particularly poorly transcribed.

I am still playing them all at 60 / 70 % speed and have to
Slow down further for arpeggio combinado. All those chord changes are
a pain to learn but it's a nice sounding piece. The apeggio double is fast
but just about ok at my 60 % speed.

I think all this barre chords are developing my left hand a fair bit but I really struggle
to do the alzapur exercise on the heighest chord. Can you do that.

I stopped doing them for a while because I felt that they were not covering
enough scale patterns and compas rhythm practice. Some times they seem to
unmusical.

I think I need to tab out the tremolo Piece.

The thing I like about is its a really good workout when i feel a little
Unfocused and I enjoy how they push me a bit beyond my comfort zone.

Anyway that's my take. Anyone else discovering anything ?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 15 2012 9:28:03

Elie

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

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Just wondering what you thoughts are now ?

I worked all the exercises including the tremolo actually
and the most challenging to my technique are the tremolo and the arpeggio double .. I am getting so close to the full speed of the arpeggio double but still far from the tremolo''s full speed because i am not used to rest my thumb during tremolos

I really think that they are cool exercises, I divided them among the week days and im working with them almost daily
they are structured in a nice way maybe that's the reason why im feeling comfortable with them
i don't think they are enough, as you mentioned they need some more scales and Rasgueados exercises and maybe more 3 finger picados in my case

yes you're right I had a rough time with the alzapua exercise but could achieve it eeventually

quote:

I felt that they were not covering enough scale patterns and compas rhythm practice

I use segovia Diatonic Major and Minor Scales , if you like I will send them to you

cheers mate wish you all the best

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 17 2012 18:14:35

rombsix

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

Technique rules!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 17 2012 18:18:07

Sr. Martins

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

I was wondering if someone could send me the pdf/images..

The CD is now part of my music provider but it only shows the cover, not the tabs.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Jul. 27 2014 19:56:38

makanakijones

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

As much as I like Pedro Sierra as a player, I think this a terrible piece of education. I have just bought the cd and I cannot believe the lack of effort and detail put in this work.
Where are the tabs? Is this an ear training cd?
I don't know how this is possible.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 4 2019 20:11:27

kitarist

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to makanakijones)

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ORIGINAL: makanakijones
I have just bought the cd [...]
Where are the tabs?

You can buy them for 6 Euros as a pdf file of just the tabs, or for 5 Euros as a rar package with some bio and stretching exercises as word and pdf files and with tabs as jpg files.

Weirdly, the original "3 Euro" link to the rar package, which is now 5 Euros, contains more material (the bio and stretching exercises).

I just got both and was hoping that the pdf has some more proper formatting, but no, the same hand-drawn tabs, except that in the more expensive pdf version someone converted the jpg into pdf image pages, which is trivial to do with Adobe Acrobat.

Both contain 51 images total of tabs of the 19 (or is it 20) different exercises.

So my advice is to get the 5 Euro rar package; you get more out of it (and it is 1 Euro cheaper) because of the bio and stretching/flexibility stuff.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 4 2019 21:24:26

makanakijones

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RE: Pedro Sierra exercise test run. (in reply to Elie)

Thank you very much.

I keep saying the same, I cannot think how someone can deliver an educational product this way.

By the way, anyone know if the progressions he is using in the exercises correspond to a palo or Are them aleatory?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Oct. 5 2019 10:54:14