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henrym3483
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RE: A good Teacher for online Flamen... (in reply to Guest)
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if i was recommending online material (non live classes) i would suggest Jose Tanaka (modern & traditional), Jason McGuire (Modern and Traditional), Antonio Davao (Traditional, but alot of examples from various regions huelva, moron, jerez etc) Ricardo Marlow also has some online lessons on flamenco-teacher. Alot of value for money with a monthly subscription. If looking for skype face to face. I can recommend, Jesus Agarrado "el Guardia" (toque jerezano), Miguel Salado (toque jerezano) and Nino Manuel (traditional and contemporary), Ricardo Marlow (forum member here who contributes alot) Depends alot of what level you are and what you wish to learn, there is alot of variety out there
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Date Aug. 27 2019 18:32:32
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Ricardo
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RE: A good Teacher for online Flamen... (in reply to hasnoona)
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ORIGINAL: hasnoona Thank you all for your suggestions. I will take all of them into consideration and I appreciate it. Not trying to throw gasoline on fire but, what is the issue with Ruben Diaz? I searched the forum briefly and could see a few jabs on him here and there in posts but couldn’t quite tell. All I care about is the legitimacy and teaching skills he has to offer are those tainted and is he not an actual student of Paco de Lucia?? Early interactions on foro in 2009 pulled up a lot of red flags on the individual. After the smoke cleared we learned about some of his more sinister behaviors.... basically a con artist to be avoided at all cost. Here is an early quotation directed toward him in 2009 by one of our beloved contributors, the late Ron Mitchell (rip), from which you can easily infer what was going on after his first appearance on here. quote:
Dear, dear, Ruben..... What can I say? What was your motivation for that post? Or as Florian would say, "How did this play out in your head, man? Did you really think this would suddenly convert people to liking you here?" Nobody has said you are a rotten guitarist. On the contrary, folk have applauded your technique and free lessons. (which might account for the popularity of your website also. People love freebies.) However nobody seems to like your polite but cold personal communication style, nor your desire for self-promotion and your intolerance for any kind of criticizm of your views. Hence there seems little need for you to be on a discussion Forum, since your opinions are already fixed. I feel you have joined this site, not for the intention of making friends and discussing stuff with other members, but rather for the purpose of "phishing" for "admirers". Perhaps you have no need for people to like and respect you just as a person and not for what you can do on the guitar. Then again, maybe you are so much in awe of yourself that you don't really need anyone else. To have posted an apology to Jason McGuire and perhaps offered to help out with some of our challenges etc would have at least been a good start. But instead, you chose to shove your website statistics in our faces to "prove" what a grand and well-known figure you are. When you shoot yourself in the foot once, well, that could be an unfortunate accident. But to do it twice in quick succession is just plain stupidity. I'm sure even Paco de Lucia himself did not get to where he is by insulting his audience. Anyway, I am moderating your posting as of now, which means your posts will be submitted to one of the Administrators before being published, as you are bringing down the positive mood of the Forum. I suggest you take a break from here and have a long think about how someone with a superb Flamenco guitar technique like yourself could bomb so badly on one of the most popular English-language Flamenco Forums on the Web. cheers, Ron
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Date Aug. 29 2019 17:36:31
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Richard Jernigan
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From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: A good Teacher for online Flamen... (in reply to henrym3483)
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ORIGINAL: From what i've Sabicas showed people stuff when he hung out with the guitar bit of food, vino y toque. from what i've heard but did not teach per se, but showed concepts and ideas. In 1962 I was stationed at the U.S. Army Aberdeen Proving Ground, north of Baltimore Maryland. If you wore your uniform you could ride the bus to New York City on the weekend for $8. The chief drawback was that when you exited the Port Authority Bus Terminal, the con men following you formed a line half a block long, and if you got into a cab, they gave you the grand tour of Manhattan and tried to charge you accordingly. I hung out at Zambra, a club not far south of Central Park, where Fernando Sirvent was the house guitarist. Sabicas often showed up for the Saturday night juerga which ran from closing time at least until sun-up Sunday morning. Sabicas would be accompanied by an entourage of young men, mostly Spaniards, and one of an assortment of dazzling young blondes. Sabicas was friendly and conversed with strangers like me. His entourage told me Sabicas always had a guitar in his hands except when he was eating, playing poker, or in bed. They said that if asked, he would slow down and explain something, but he never “taught.” One of my friends who played in some of the bigger poker games in NYC responded to my questioning with, “Sabicas, Agustin? Oh, little Spanish guy, flashy diamond ring, wears a wig, they call him ‘Gus’? Yeah, he plays—-and wins.” RNJ
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Date Sep. 2 2019 23:42:16
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henrym3483
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RE: A good Teacher for online Flamen... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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I hung out at Zambra, a club not far south of Central Park, where Fernando Sirvent was the house guitarist. Sabicas often showed up for the Saturday night juerga which ran from closing time at least until sun-up Sunday morning. Sabicas would be accompanied by an entourage of young men, mostly Spaniards, and one of an assortment of dazzling young blondes. Sabicas was friendly and conversed with strangers like me. His entourage told me Sabicas always had a guitar in his hands except when he was eating, playing poker, or in bed. They said that if asked, he would slow down and explain something, but he never “taught.” One of my friends who played in some of the bigger poker games in NYC responded to my questioning with, “Sabicas, Agustin? Oh, little Spanish guy, wears a wig, they call him ‘Gus’? Yeah, he plays—-and wins.” Richard that must have been a privelege, one question, ever hear of Juan de La Mata, was he in a lot of the flamenco circles with Sabicas. according to some people?
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Date Sep. 3 2019 9:47:22
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Richard Jernigan
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RE: A good Teacher for online Flamen... (in reply to hasnoona)
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Yes, it may be that Juan de la Mata lived in New York at that time, since I saw him often in those days. Fernando Sirvent’s sister Amor had a Spanish gift shop in Washington DC, near Dupont Circle and the Guitar Shop, originally owned by Sophocles Pappas, Segovia’s friend. The first time I visited Amor Sirvent’s shop in 1962 I asked her whether she knew of any flamenco guitars for sale. She had one in the shop which belonged to a friend. After I played a few bars of solea, she said, “Tocas en compas. You know that I have a dance school. These American girls, they want to express themselves. They can’t understand that flamenco is rules, rules, rules!” The Sirvents and the guitarist Carlos Ramos were payos, but they were well integrated into the east coast flamenco community. RNJ
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Date Sep. 3 2019 16:54:48
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BarkellWH
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RE: A good Teacher for online Flamen... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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Nevertheless, some of Sabicas’ stuff, and some of Mario Escudero’s as well, seems to have rubbed off on Peña. Sabicas influenced both Paco Pena and Paco de Lucia, different as each turned out to be. In fact, it would probably be hard to name a late twentieth century flamenco guitarist of any renown who wasn't influenced by Sabicas in one way or another. Bill
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Date Sep. 4 2019 14:14:37
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joselito_fletan
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RE: A good Teacher for online Flamen... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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In 1962 I was stationed at the U.S. Army Aberdeen Proving Ground, north of Baltimore Maryland. If you wore your uniform you could ride the bus to New York City on the weekend for $8. The chief drawback was that when you exited the Port Authority Bus Terminal, the con men following you formed a line half a block long, and if you got into a cab, they gave you the grand tour of Manhattan and tried to charge you accordingly. I hung out at Zambra, a club not far south of Central Park, where Fernando Sirvent was the house guitarist. Sabicas often showed up for the Saturday night juerga which ran from closing time at least until sun-up Sunday morning. Sabicas would be accompanied by an entourage of young men, mostly Spaniards, and one of an assortment of dazzling young blondes. Sabicas was friendly and conversed with strangers like me. His entourage told me Sabicas always had a guitar in his hands except when he was eating, playing poker, or in bed. They said that if asked, he would slow down and explain something, but he never “taught.” One of my friends who played in some of the bigger poker games in NYC responded to my questioning with, “Sabicas, Agustin? Oh, little Spanish guy, flashy diamond ring, wears a wig, they call him ‘Gus’? Yeah, he plays—-and wins.” RNJ What an excellent anecdote, always love these stories , Thank you and Cheers
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Date Sep. 4 2019 14:43:09
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