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ORIGINAL: Brendan

Much to enjoy here, puristas especially will have the pleasure of disliking pretty much all of it. You’re welcome.

https://youtu.be/yliXnfftN50

For everyone else: what she plays at the end sounds nothing like flamenco. So what is she missing, given that she has tried to get her head around it and has the education and fingers?

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1) anyone who just says ‘aire’ or ‘soniquete’ will be disqualified.

2) anyone who says ‘duende’ will be beaten to a pulp by the flamenco militia.

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Not like she's trying to write a flamenco piece, more like she's just incorporating some superficial knowledge (she didn't even have a proper teacher) about it to her music, and i think that's fine for the aim of the video. Hence "Flamenco, As Digested by a Classical Musician", and not "Flamenco, as digested by someone who wants to learn flamenco and play flamenco".

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This girl is too busy blogging to all her subscribers about everything she is learning to drop her protective ego and start from scratch.

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ORIGINAL: rasqeo77

I don’t really understand the negative comments to be honest. The video doesn’t purport to be anything other than what it is - an attempt by a classical musician to understand some of the very basic elements of flamenco in order to use some of those ideas in her improvisations. There’s no suggestion what she is doing is authentic flamenco. Clearly plenty of people are interested given the video has over 12k likes. I would imagine many of those people will have very little knowledge of flamenco so if it introduces the art to a wider audience good for her.

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I don’t really understand the negative comments to be honest.

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Spell Grisha’s last name correctly

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I just noticed. And "Gorkachev" wasn't the only one whose name got butchered. Pepe Romero became Romano. Careful, you might turn up in part II as Ricardo Merlot.

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ORIGINAL: rasqeo77
What was wrong about what was said about the 12-beat compás and the Phrygian mode? Don’t flamenco guitar methods also cover these? Not trying to be argumentative - I genuinely want to understand what was factually wrong as I’m not an advanced player.

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ORIGINAL: Leñador

After a few months of study I thought “I’m learning so much so quickly I should be able to play a whole Paco piece in a year or so.”
I didn’t grasp exactly how ignorant that thought was. Looking back now 6/7 years later I can see how just making that statement really showed the superficial level of knowledge I had.
I get where she’s coming from after I spent some months learning I wanted to show everyone how much I learned and how awesome I was but it wasn’t till a few years later I realized that I should have been MUCH more humble about my level of knowledge. As years tick by and I lean more what I really learn is how little I actually know.

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ORIGINAL: BarkellWH

Great chart, Konstantin, and applicable to much more than flamenco. In just about any field there are plenty of people who don't know what they don't know and thus think they know everything.

Bill

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ORIGINAL: El Burdo

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If she had an expert showing her the ropes, that video likely wouldn't exist.

Yep. She would have been made to feel so stupid she wouldn't have done it. Result!

In fact she has done a lot of these takes, Blues, Funk, Minimalist, Ragtime even. She seems to be a musical omnivore which maybe befits a graduate of Juilliard and the Royal Conservatory of Music in Toronto. She certainly has chops and rhythm to spare. The odd thing is, she uses the same left hand oblique groove figure in several of them.

I also don't feel the snide remarks about trivial and self important blogs are fair - internet tech makes it possible and easy to post passing thoughts that have less value than Thomas Mann, say. But that is not what they're for - they are to be consumed, shrugged at and maybe liked. I doubt many would be diverted to flamenco puro from her thoughts but I doubt that was her intention. She seems to be doing plenty else of significance. It's the same thing that makes people want to post their thoughts on places like this.

Why it wasn't remotely flamenco? I wonder that if a guitar could be played like a piano, the music would have sounded different? Yes. Do the restrictions on the playing of the guitar lead to a musical identity, yes. If she were to pause and hear what she had just played a bit more, then yes. Had she played less and felt more then yes. She looked at the compas, phrygian dominant and Andalusian cadence which are all significant. But if you were to tell a Martian to build four continuous vertical structures and three horizontal structures of the same size I doubt you would get a house.