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You want to keep Guest Access?
Leave it as it is - guests can read and post
  8% (3)
Keep the Public Area - guests can read BUT not post
  64% (22)
Switch off all guest access - nada
  26% (9)


Total Votes : 34
(last vote on : Feb. 16 2006 8:41:00) 
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Escribano

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You want to keep Guest Access? 
What do you think?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 14:59:02
 
duende

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From: Sweden

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
As i said before. It is all free, if they are intressted there is no problem becoming a registerd
user.
The Moderator of this site gives very good service and take care of us all in a very good way

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 15:06:02
 
Florian

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RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to duende) 
If it dosent effect you SImon, incidents like this have opened our eyes to a good reason to get ride of it. We hardly ever use it anyway.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 15:16:26
 
XXX

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RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
Oh Duende, nice words youve chosen there, slimer! HAHA (joke)
I voted for the second option.
Its no problem either, to first have a look at the foro...ooops! I just checked that. Guest even have no access to other areas! In this case, there must be a public area!

A guest must have the oportunity to make up his mind about the foro imo, and we should keep it as neutral as possible, means guest should have "free choice".
The front/homepage only is *not* the best way to make up his mind, its the *worst* way.

Another point, the guest area is also a great way to communicate for US the members with the "outside" world.

Flo, the incidents have not much to do with "being allowed to post". Someone who wants to make trouble can also do it AFTER registering

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 15:17:17
 
Thomas Whiteley

 

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From: San Francisco Bay Area

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
quote:

What do you think?


I would have voted to keep things as they are except for one thing. All too many guests that post do not use a name. So I voted to allow guests to view and not post. Sometimes we have had two guests on the same thread and you cannot tell where one begins and the other ends.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 16:10:56
 
Tenshu

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From: Belgium

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
I say get rid of it. I often times almost miss important posts because they're shattered all over the forum.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 16:15:39
 
XXX

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RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
Tenshu, try this link http://www.foroflamenco.com/searchpro.asp?searchfor=lastvisit
Youll never miss a post ;)

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 16:21:42
 
Ron.M

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From: Scotland

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
It's difficult to say, Simon.
Actually, we haven't had that many problems on it.
Most of the posters have been honest, decent people making a casual enquiry about Flamenco for a college project or where to go in Spain to see some real Flamenco etc.

Also I believe that Google can pick up these public pages, but not the Member only..
(Am I right on that?)
If so, then it gives the Forum more exposure to newcomers searching on the Net.

If we go that way then I think it's important to "clean up" this Public Forum from trolling nutters by deleting these abusive posts and follow ups, because somebody reading those threads may think it looks like a Lavatory wall and be tempted to spray paint their own comments.

Interestingly enough Flamenco-Teacher is subscription only.
You can read stuff, but not post without a valid email address.

Also I think we should take more care where we post our own thread starters.
There is no reason to post on the Public Forum unless you want to reach folk outside the forum.
I think this Forum should be used mainly for incoming, plus replies.

I'll have to think about it...

cheers

Ron
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 17:23:47
 
carlos soto

 

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RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
I vote nada. When serious people come you can tell because they register, that's the kind of people you want to hear comments from because obviously they have no problem with being honest, critical and constructive. It's a waste of time and space reading and having the comments of people who you don't really know...

And by allowing guests to just read you lose the community sence of the forum which is one of the things I really like about this forum...
Plus I always forgot to login at public areas and my post stays as guest
so, that's my thought, no guest, NADA.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 17:46:39
 
flyeogh

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RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to carlos soto) 
I went for the middle option. This place is great so too much change would worry me.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 12 2006 19:20:20
 
Jamey

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From: Winnipeg, Canada

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
Leave the public areas but require a member ID in order to post to them (or any other). I was saying to ToddK the other day that I've always thought of this foro as a sort of refuge from the glut of trashed forums out there. The climate of this forum is bar-none the most civil, friendly and generally helpful of the lot. People here genuinely are cool with one another and friendships have been forged and fostered here. Simon, it's truly a difficult thing to measure but the general atmosphere here is exactly what an online community of adults sharing a common interest/pursuit/passion should be. You have all walks of life with all levels and specialties represented here. Everybody, even when they disagree (if not outright argue), still get along and pat each other on the back when whatever small dispute dissipates. Most people here are forum vets to a large extend and have come here to find friendly compadres rather than constant advisaries and nameless anonymous snipers.

Keep the public areas readable so that others may see how things are done here but require the membership and vetting process already in play before anyone can post in those same areas. This will also keep the pages in the public area open to the robots to crawl and index the site so that it shows up on Google.

- Jamey
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 13 2006 2:53:41
Guest

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
I voted for number 3. I´m radical

Actually, my preferences would be to skip the member versus public discussion, to let everyone (incl. guests) read everything, and only let members post. That would be the easyest.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 13 2006 15:03:09
 
Escribano

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From: England, living in Italy

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Guest) 
quote:

to let everyone (incl. guests) read everything, and only let members post. That would be the easyest.


We voted on that before and it was defeated although I take your point about confusion in where to post public or members?

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 13 2006 15:07:23
 
Crows

 

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Joined: Sep. 27 2004
 

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
I voted for 2 as I found this forum as a guest.
Anders has a very good point though.

Bottom line for me is:
I think readers need to see the content so they can get a feel for the place.
Writers should be controlled by membership from a genuine email account to keep the dickheads out.

This forum is one of the few genuine places on the Internet, it needs some protection to ensure it's future.

Andy.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 13 2006 15:52:45
 
Crows

 

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RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Crows) 
Apologies for the profanity, but it's the only way to describe them

Andy.
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 13 2006 15:54:32
 
Ricardo

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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Guest) 
I agree with Anders. Read it all but can't post without permission/memership. Most boards are that way. I think for some people that are lurking, they see the members and other non viewable areas as sort of a club/clique/vip thing where you need to feel like you have to be special to get "in". At least that is how I felt about it when I first discovered this site. On the other hand I understand why it would make newcomers curious enough to sign up.

Ricardo
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 13 2006 18:57:20
 
gshaviv

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Joined: Mar. 22 2005
From: Israel

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Ricardo) 
I voted for 2. That's a very common way of doing forums these days. It does not restrict google from searching the pages (to Ron's point) as guest are permitted to read. And while Ron is right we didn't have too much problem with it, we avoid any potential future problem and a need to fix it in a hurry cause someone is spamming us.

3 is too extreme and counter productive. The point is to share information about flamenco, not restrict it. Allowing all to read is the best way to get more readership and participation.

Once you do it, there is no point in having a guest forum vs a member forum, and what Anders said applies.

Since registration is free and easy, requiring it is a small filter to ensure only serious posts are done at no effort to the moderators.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Feb. 14 2006 0:29:31
 
carlos soto

 

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Joined: Oct. 22 2005
 

RE: You want to keep Guest Access? (in reply to Escribano) 
I voted 3, but I don't think this is the lions den or anything like that.
I choose 3 because anyone that can have access could download and use material from the forum and copyrighted or not it could be used in a way the autor doesn't want to. Maybe it's a little paranoid, you don't actually have to use it in every section, but every topic with download material should have it.
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