Guitarists out of compas

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Filip

Posts: 403
Joined: Apr. 23 2006
From: Paris

Guitarists out of compas

Hey all,

I was wondering, do you know of any of the moments performing live where any of the great flamenco players (the list is long, but I am especially interested in figures like Paco, Vicente, Gerardo) have had problems with compass and actually got out of it? Any first hand experiences, any videos on youtube?

I know of this video of Paco playing Cositas Buenas (not actually sure if and when he screws compass) and when he's finished he says to the other guys something like "and all the time I'm going with the sigiriya in my head).

Cheers

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 15 2018 6:45:54

Dudnote

Posts: 1805
Joined: Nov. 13 2007

RE: Guitarists out of compas (in reply to Filip)

This might not really reply to the question, but we've had discussions on here before about recordings of non-standard (12 beat) compas. e.g. the solea, alegrias & fandango of Nino Miguel + other cases by other greats including Sabicas. Non standard compas in various versions of Impetu have also been discussed here too.

Here's the Impetu thread
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=81838&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=impetu&tmode=&smode=&s=#84214

and the other thread...
http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=286966&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=solea%2Cnino%2Cmiguel&tmode=&smode=&s=#287009

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 15 2018 9:12:26

Ricardo

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Joined: Dec. 14 2004
From: Washington DC

RE: Guitarists out of compas (in reply to Filip)

Although infrequent, there are many examples of this 9 beat buleria and such with Sabicas Nino Miguel and even PDL as discovered here:

http://www.foroflamenco.com/tm.asp?m=23987&appid=&p=&mpage=1&key=tumbona&tmode=&smode=&s=#23987

I’ve never noticed Paco lose his place rhythmically live, however I was surprised how Paco got a measure ahead of Mclaughlin at 18:20 :

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Nov. 15 2018 12:01:27