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Ruphus
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 RE: Motivation (in reply to jalalkun)
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ORIGINAL: jalalkun
once I start playing the motivation packs me by itself, it doesn't need much. just the sound of the guitar is enough. finding passion in what you do is the greatest motivation you can have, and this applies to everything actually. playing with other people and gigging of course can be a motivation to get better, but the foundation of everything is passion, IMHO.
Absolutely agreed.
A flabby and dull set of strings on my favorite guitar resulted in months of lost motivation until I swapped strings yesterday. Indicating how much sound and tactility matter to me, even when mainly just working on technique.
However an instrumental career with either little of good practicing or wrong method of practicing can be counterproductive to efforts through passion.
Probably like you, I was and still am drawn to the guitar by its enchanting characteristics. And for the first 15 years or more me was not practicing at all, but just plucking away.
Pleasure from the emerging sound was great and so was creativity.
Accidentally much of technique (other than barré grabbing, which was plain wrong from start) was good too, until one day I saw a wrong example of posture on TV and thought that is how things should be.
That was when a self-impairing odyssey set in.
Optimal in terms of satisfaction and efficiency should be a pairing of passion for the guitar with ergonomic and systematic method of playing.
I admire individuals who either started out in an inspiring natural ambience like in a Gitano family (or for classical equivalent, in a house like of the Romeros), or with a good teacher.
Can you say easy and rewarding progress!
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Having said that, I have seen an autodidact rocketing up to virtuosity as a rock guitarist in only 1,5 years, and also other cases where talents gained quite something on their own.
But that seems not how things develop typically.
After players´ decades of invested time on auto didactical path (do like you feel) inhibiting technical habits and one-trick ponies appear to rather be occurring than evenly spread and advanced skills.
Inherited wisdom of hundreds of years and modern didactics seem a wise way of matching one´s passion.
Just my two pesos to passion and reward.
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Date Mar. 16 2018 7:25:38
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jalalkun
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From: Iraq, living in Cologne, Germany
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RE: Motivation (in reply to Ruphus)
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my first passion was actually piano, since it was the first instrument I learned to play kind-of on my keyboard. I have been an autodidact my whole life by the way. but I became bored by the sound and lack of dynamics of my keyboard so it started to gather dust. that's when my mom bought a steelstring guitar for me, out of the blue. it's been a little over 9 years ago, but I started to play the guitar in winter 2010 - 7 years ago. at first I was learning on my own, stumbling upon barrée and scales and chords and all this stuff. in mid 2011 I found my passion for flamenco guitar and started off with simple spanish cadence tourist-flamenco rumba stuff  and in winter 2012 I bought my first nylon string guitar. I started to dig more into the roots of flamenco and fell in love with it. by watching videos I found out that my picado was off because I wasn't alternating the fingers, and so I learned picado from zero again and started to realize why I wasn't getting any faster and cleaner in my picados. my passion not only motivates me to keep on playing, but also to practice with a lot of discipline (you can't always stay very disciplined, that's hard as f#ck) to express myself more freely. thinking about how I could play the guitar when I keep practicing is a strong, passionate drive that I have. and now, that I have found a couple of people in my town to show me a couple of things I also learnt a lot. these people gave me great hints to improve my playing which I wouldn't have realized if I stayed playing by myself.
so yeah, you're absolutely right ruphus. but I don't think that passion and a methodically correct playing are opposites, I want to learn and play properly so when I play I don't need to think about playing and let my passion flow freely instead. 
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Date Mar. 19 2018 13:36:10
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Piwin
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RE: Motivation (in reply to Ruphus)
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A flabby and dull set of strings on my favorite guitar resulted in months of lost motivation until I swapped strings yesterday. Indicating how much sound and tactility matter to me, even when mainly just working on technique.
That happens to me but in my case I think it's more about just being excited to play with something new. A little bit of vanity I guess. Same thing with jogging. A new pair of shoes will give me a spike in motivation.
One thing I do to keep motivated is to switch over to other instruments every now and again. For whatever reason, after playing the clarinet or the keyboard for a day or two, everything feels different when I come back to the guitar. Makes it feel fresh, as if I was re-discovering the instrument. I guess I'm a musical philanderer...
But people are wired differently I guess. For instance, I personally have no problem at all leaving the guitar in its case for a few weeks or a few months. I often seem to progress while I'm not playing. Though granted, when I'm not playing the guitar, I'm often involved in some other sort of musical activity that keeps me engaged. Active listening, transposing, etc. And if all my guitars (that makes it sound like I have a lot lol. I don't) burned tomorrow and all I had left was a tuba, I doubt I'd lose any sleep over it. I'd just learn how to play the tuba. Guess I'm not as passionate about the guitar as you guys. I approach it sort of like, I think it was Michael Hedges, who said that he was "a composer who happens to play the guitar".
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Date Mar. 19 2018 17:12:33
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Ghodaddyyo
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From: Huntington Beach, CA
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RE: Motivation (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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I didn't know there was so many martial artists here. I started muay thai kickboxing at the age of 45, about a year ago... some 6 months after taking my first flamenco lesson. My guitar teacher was pretty horrified about it and strongly discouraged it, but I need the exercise and have always enjoyed martial arts. Balance Daniel-san!
I avoided BJJ due to nails, but found smashing a 150 lb heavy bag even with gloves on always caused my nails to "fold" on impact and would chip off the crazy glue. I've since started keeping my nails shorter as prescribed by the Pumping Nylon suggestions and stopped using crazy glue. I now use base layers of a calcium "strengthener" topped with Seche Vite. The applications seem to last a lot longer and my nails look much healthier than when I was using crazy glue, acrylic powder, and silk wrap.
I've been in a winter slump in regards to kickboxing, and haven't been going as much as when I first started. I'm feeling my age... I'm the oldest person in the class! But I've been playing guitar alot more now. When I first started lessons, I was in a rush to build repertoire and technique, but lately I've been focusing on slowing things down and working to clean up and rebuild my technique. I reignite motivation by picking a new song to learn. Usually I'll hit a roadblock in the process that reveals a weakness in technique, then I switch focus on building that technique. I wish I had more people to play with, but no one wants to play flamenco. I still participate in a jazz jam once a week, but it's always the same old standards we play each week. I also bought a cajon to fool around with and break up guitar playing with it. It gets really fun when I hook up my cajon with a looper pedal then grab my guitar to play over the loop.
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