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Fitz63
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 RE: Pepe Habichuela Fandangos (in reply to mark indigo)
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I think most of the musicians that I admire would have learned by being close to/taught by some one face to face. When you live nowhere near a teacher, at least one who can play the music you like, then you need to resort to other methods. I think if you just learn by tab then you won’t get the timing, or sound, but if you combine the tab with the audio then you could get close to being authentic? Of course that depends on the accuracy of the tab, but if you’re just using the audio a good, experienced ‘tabber’ may have a better chance of working it out than someone like me. Especially given the many possibilities, capo, string tuning, position etc
Now, with the increasing availability of videos, you can check, and correct the tab yourself.
I remember having lessons in Huelva with some local, young guitarists, only to find out that they were using Alain Faucher tabs too! Maybe this is not authentic, but it might be that it’s the best that some people can access?
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Date Nov. 16 2017 9:18:21
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mark indigo
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RE: Pepe Habichuela Fandangos (in reply to Fitz63)
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When you live nowhere near a teacher, at least one who can play the music you like, then you need to resort to other methods.
undeniable, and I think being able to see how the techniques should be employed by watching a competent advanced player is really important, which is why we have DVD!  .
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I think if you just learn by tab then you won’t get the timing, or sound, but if you combine the tab with the audio then you could get close to being authentic?
but if you have the audio, then why not just get the notes from the audio?
that way you use and improve you ear, so that you can also tackle anything that you don't have tab for.
it avoids the problem of the tab being at best an "interpretation" and at worst plain wrong.
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a good, experienced ‘tabber’ may have a better chance of working it out than someone like me.
imo the only person who benefits from transcribing music is the transcriber.
you can use media players and/or software to slow audio or video down, loop small sections (even one note!), and learn to play the notes as you figure them out.
no need to write them down.
if you forget then just go back to the audio.
it's actually much quicker in the long run than trying to remember tab.
also, and this is important, you learn the correct PHRASING and RHYTHM from the original source as you learn the falseta....
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I remember having lessons in Huelva with some local, young guitarists, only to find out that they were using Alain Faucher tabs too!
I hope you didn't actually pay them? 
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Date Nov. 16 2017 14:53:06
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mark indigo
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RE: Pepe Habichuela Fandangos (in reply to Fitz63)
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Even learning Flamenco from an audio file is probably a step too far for some people. Instead of at the foot of a maestro!
IMHO the aim of every teacher should be to make the student independent of them.
So a good teacher should be teaching the student to develop and use their ears, directly or indirectly, not handing out tabs and keeping them addicted to crutches!
I have even been at a guitar workshop with a really good teacher, going slowly, explaining things clearly and demonstrating small sections at a time, and there was a guy paying no attention asking me to write it down for him, convinced already that he couldn't do it without trying - madness!
And without a teacher you have to do that for yourself, with the help of DVD's and something to slow down audio.
I am not great at this, it is a constant work in progress, and sometimes I literally loop one note and slide my left hand finger up and down frets to find or check I have got the note right.
Anyone can do it, you just have to try, and persevere!
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