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Tried Alessi F6 95 gram tuners?
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NorCalluthier
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RE: Tried Alessi F6 95 gram tuners? (in reply to estebanana)
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Hello Stephen ~ Alessis look sexy and they are a brand name, but 400.00 tuners are custom order. Savage Guitars gives a bit of a discount on them. ~To me the problem is the body, or really the lightness of body. Rosewood guitars are not usually out of balance, but super eggshell blancas are.To me the best answer, is back to wood pegs. I think wood pegs are a deal killer. So I use Planetary Pegs, but even they get some opposition. "Three of them turn the wrong way"! ~ And if someone wants an 'egg shell' the Gotoh mid tier models and the second market copies are usually what I go for. I have a couple of sets of Gotohs, and they come in at 155 grams. "A pound at the masthead is worth 10 at the keel." ~ I also like some of the Rubners with the roller bearing for rose wood bodies. Sloanes are always nice. Rubners and are about the same weight and quality. I use the new Sloanes on my rosewood classics, as I like the look of them a lot. And classical players don't have a balance problem with even a lightweight guitar, as their playing position takes care of that. ~ If you can charge the extra money to make your 400.00 after your speculate on the Alessi, sure. But some of the Gotoh knock offs really have proven to be a good flamenco tuner... Truth be known, I never met a machine head that I didn't like. The differences in their function seem very small to me. I do like an ultralight blanca, and I still hold the guitar in the old style flamenco position. I'll bet that those F6's come close to the same weight as a set of pegs, if you allow for the head slots. Ah yes, the money! I asked Kenny Hill one time why he used expensive tuners, and he said "For the oooo value!" Cheers, Brian
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Date Jul. 4 2017 0:09:58
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estebanana
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RE: Tried Alessi F6 95 gram tuners? (in reply to NorCalluthier)
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I like pegheds too, most of us Foroneers use them. I have a set waiting for a customer to request them. Today, meaning in the last year, I've decided to go back to being a Hardliner in wood pegs. I built three guitars last year that the customer afterwards expressed remorse at not having had me make them with real wood pegs. I think there is a reevaluation of wood pegs happening, at least as far as my clients. Many players are wanting a guitar with geared tuners and one with pegs. We all know tuners with gears are more of sure thing on stage, but more players are getting confidence to use pegs again and I am 200% in support of them. Guitars with pegs are just prettier and romantic. It's like the difference between using a very utility based ball point pen and a fine fountain pen. The fountain pen is not practical to haul around in your pocket, car, or for all situations. The ball point can be very well made and function beautifully. And then the fountain pen may be more esoteric and take more time to master, but it gives rewards in performance and aesthetic pleasure, and a haptic quality the ball point lacks. Pegs and gears are a similar comparison. And there is a lot of collector appeal to say beautiful and plum wood or box wood pegs, and ebony is always classic. There are players who see the practical value of pegs too, the balance is almost always better. Peghead type tuners, geared pegs, are only going to get better as time passes, so a guitar made with wood pegs can always be refitted with future iterations of geared pegs if the owner wants. I also want to get a good reputation for my wood peg guitars because I just love making peg models. I've been making peg appointments with a silver wire inlay into the tip of the the peg. But I suppose I would use the Alessi tuner if I wanted to charge amori. That's a joke son, get it, Alessi - amori ........
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