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danonearth

 

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Most 'common' popular songs to play/... 
Hi, I am an intermediate player, and want to start playing with other guitarists and/or dancers… I was just wondering if there are 2-3 more ‘popular’ common songs that everyone knows? That way, I can learn them, so that I do play with them, everyone knows the same songs…

Thanks!
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Leñador

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
Hmmm, not quite clear on the question. Do you mean most popular palos???
Your an intermediate player so I assume you have a couple falsetas, have some good compas variations, a couple good remates/llamadas/cierre for Tangos, Alegrias, and Solea? And know the chords to accompany a few letras of each of those?
If any of this is sounding greek to you I suggest you start with Sevillanas. It's the only one that's completely mapped out for everyone.
http://ravennaflamenco.com/articles/accompaniment-sevillana

If it doesn't sounds greek than you've basically got the tools you need to put together a song with a dancer, it's generally up to them what you play when though.......

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danonearth

 

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
Wonderful... Thanks! Yes, I have a bit of all of those, but was just nervous about putting them all together 'live' with someone else! I guess that's really what my question was - is there a common format or 'song' that would be a good start to feel comfortable playing together :)

ps. I was also thinking of working with a beginning/intermediate dancer, so didn't know if I was meant to provide a basic 'foundation' for them, or to follow them more as you would for a more experienced dancer - thought we could kind of 'learn' together as we both got more experience :)

Thanks again!
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mrstwinkle

 

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
I suppose flamenco doesn't have the equivalent of R'n'B 'standards' that everyone knows. However I doubt it matters - dancers will want compas / a beat - the guitar is just like nice wallpaper :)
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danonearth

 

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
Lol! Yes, I thought so... I hope I make nice wallpaper though... ;) Thanks!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 23 2017 0:35:51
 
Leñador

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
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ps. I was also thinking of working with a beginning/intermediate dancer, so didn't know if I was meant to provide a basic 'foundation' for them, or to follow them more as you would for a more experienced dancer

That's not a terrible idea but there is some issues with it. MANY student dancers have choreography memorized but don't know the parts of what they're doing. They know this big 7:00 dance and you say "lemme see you're falseta again?" or, "can I see that llamada after the footwork before the second letra?" and they'll stair at you like a deer in headlights. Practicing with someone like this really would do nothing for you. If you can find one that knows all their parts and even better what it should sound like that's really the key. I was pretty lucky to have a high level student dancer friend who could tell me if what I was doing was wrong or right, she taught me a TON. We'd run through the dances together before I played for her teachers class and it was a huge help. Avoided a lot of death stares from the teach.
Here's a basic Alegrias structure por baile but this is by no means a rule, this will just give you an idea.

Intro(falseta usually)
Tiri tri tran
footwork into llamada
Letra
Falseta
More loud and slightly off beat footwork :)
Silencio
Escobilla
Buleria de cadiz
Fast tiri tri tran
Close.

If you have material for all that you're lookin pretty good.

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dancers will want compas / a beat - the guitar is just like nice wallpape

Similarly to working with interior designers, dancers want the exact wall paper for the situation, not any ol wall paper will do. They want wallpaper but it has to compliment the situation and make sense.

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danonearth

 

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
quote:

Intro(falseta usually)
Tiri tri tran
footwork into llamada
Letra
Falseta
More loud and slightly off beat footwork :)
Silencio
Escobilla
Buleria de cadiz
Fast tiri tri tran
Close.


Wonderful! That's a great start... Thank you!
  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 23 2017 0:47:04
 
Leñador

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
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Wonderful! That's a great start... Thank you!


OOPS I put escobilla, I meant esbcobilla/subida(has to slowly speed up to bulerias speed)

Oh and besides dancers, learn "Como el agua" from Camaron.

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danonearth

 

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
Got it! Thanks again... cheers, Dan
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estebanana

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
I for one would really like to hear Michael Jackson's ' Billy Jean' por sevillanas.

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Dudnote

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to estebanana) 
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ORIGINAL: estebanana
Michael Jackson's ' Billy Jean' por sevillanas.

...she's just la niña who says ai-ai-ai-aaaaaiiiii-aaaaaaaiiiiiii-iiiiiii-iiiiiiiii-iiiiiiiii
pero el cabrito no es mi hijo-ooo-oo.


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estebanana

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to Dudnote) 
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...she's just la niña who says ai-ai-ai-aaaaaiiiii-aaaaaaaiiiiiii-iiiiiii-iiiiiiiii-iiiiiiiii
pero el cabrito no es mi hijo-ooo-oo.


nice

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mark indigo

 

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to estebanana) 
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I for one would really like to hear Michael Jackson's ' Billy Jean' por sevillanas.


this should be just the thing for you, i dunno if it's por sevillanas, but Billy Jean is track 3
https://www.elflamencovive.com/spanish/hermanos-d-maya-la-aurora-de-michel.html

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 23 2017 10:33:34
 
estebanana

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to danonearth) 
I'll get it, but first I'm saving up for this gem:

https://www.elflamencovive.com/spanish/manuel-agujetas-agugetas-en-san-diego-1985-dvd.html

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mark indigo

 

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RE: Most 'common' popular songs to p... (in reply to estebanana) 
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I'll get it, but first I'm saving up for this gem:

https://www.elflamencovive.com/spanish/manuel-agujetas-agugetas-en-san-diego-1985-dvd.html


the disc or the uniform?

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