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f.j.w.
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Reference string
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Hi What string do you use if you want to evaluate a guitar? It is useful to have a reference string that you always use for this purpose. It has be a neutral sounding string, and it has to be a fairly well known string. For violins I use Obligatos, Larsen for cellos and Spirocore for double basses. Violas,,,,, always a problem with strings, Larsen A, Helicore D, Spirocore G and C. For guitars I have never really had a reference string. I am a violin maker, and I have only just begun to work with guitars seriouIy. I have always used D'Addario Pro Arte J45, just out of habit. Recently I have begun to dislike them more and more. I have, on my teacher's recommendation tried Savarez Red Card, and I like them much more. So what do you guys use for a reference string? A reference string is not necessarily your favourite string, or the string that works best with your favourite guitar. Do you use the same reference string for flamencos and classicals, or do you use different reference strings? Frank JW
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Date Jun. 22 2017 11:06:15
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kitarist
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RE: Reference string (in reply to Njål Bendixen)
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ORIGINAL: Njål Bendixen Tom Neitzert once told me that he knew that most American string makers use nylon produced in America, thus most American strings will have some common characteristics. The same goes for European string manufacturers, tend to use nylon produced in Europe. I imagine that there are very few factories that produce raw nylon, so there could be some truth to this. Njål If we are talking about 'raw' nylon, there are only a few kinds of it - of polyamide (PA), which is what nylon is: PA6, PA66, PA11, PA12, and one or two more. Likely only a subset of these are actually used for guitar strings as the others would not have suitable properties. However, you can mix these in any combination and in any proportion - so it is still possible that guitar strings from different brands are actually slightly different recipes, even if their main ingredient is PA6, say. To an extent, one can infer the recipe (or at least if two recipes are likely the same) if accurate data on string diameter and tension for a given pitch (and tensioned string length) is given. If it is the same diameter and tension for the same pitch for the same string length, the string material is of the same density. It might be likely (but not certain) that this means the same recipe for the nylon mixture. Unfortunately, most companies seem to guard part or all of that info and/or it is not clear how accurate the tension or diameter data is that they publish. So someone should just get a makeshift tensiometer and a caliper and generate the data. Then at least we should be able to weed out the identical-density material across brand names.
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Date Jun. 23 2017 16:32:21
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