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Richard Jernigan

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to estebanana

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Texas:

They like to see California lose it's sh&&t more an they like freedoms.


I haven't heard all that much about California here in Texas lately. But I was in Florida a few weeks ago, staying at a hotel in this nice old estate ($110/night, balcony on the water, breakfast included). I had a breakfast table to myself until a man came and sat down without saying "Hello, may I, go to hell," or anything like that.

He introduced himself as a local TV personality, there to host an event in the adjoining room. As he scarfed down his bacon and eggs he launched into a rant about California. I observed mildly that it had been a while since I lived there, but it seemed okay to me back then. He replied that he had never been to California, but he had a brother who lived there. My companion said he was sick and tired of California, and it could go to hell.

He had to go to work, so I didn't get any further details.

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Leñador

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He introduced himself as a local TV personality

From Florida?? We all know what the rest of the country thinks of Floridians so I'll take his opinion with a grain of salt.
Orgullo Califas!

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estebanana

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Once when I was in Texas I wanted to buy a fishing license. I went to a sporting goods store that sold half guns and half fishing equipment. I went up to the counter asked if I could buy a fishing license, he said can I see your ID. I showed him my CA drivers license. He yelled out loud so th ewhole store could hear it. "THAT DOG DON'T HUNT". I said what, excuse me? He said Nope, sold out for the year!

If you're from California you get that kind of attitude once in a while, it always comes from guys who've never been to California, or visited a few days. When I briefly lived in Fort Wayne Indiana I got a lot of that out in the country side. I went to farm across the road from a relatives house to meet them and the guy asked where I was from. Without hesitating to actually check into who I am he launched into diatribe about how California is over privileged and does not pull its share. He said things like people CA are spoiled and go from air conditioned houses into air conditioned cars to air conditioned jobs that are cushy and soft. He was just full of piss and bile. And he he finally stopped talking I just said ok let's go the cousin. I just walked off, I could have him CA has more dairy farms than the whole mid west put together and produces more beef than Texas.......but why bother rubbing it in. Corn is king out there, we don't do corn.

Then Uncle Jerry, or as I call him Uncle Stupid Ass, back across the street was soaking his face in beer. After he was lit up a bit he vaulted into a separate anti-CA rant, but his was almost funny. He said Yeah I came out to visit you guys and all there is out there is rocks and mountains, you got deserts too, we don't have deserts. You guys have all that bad desert. I grew up in the Lower Mohave desert which is a singularly fascinating place geologically, topologically, historically significant ..anyway he moved on to LA and the Central Valley, and finally the ocean. You have all that coast line with that rocks stuff and sand and waves, you now we got lakes here and we can fish without all that ocean mess.

We did go fishing on this dismal little pond in a motor boat. We did not catch anything. My parents realized CA was a better deal and moved back West, they were talked into moving to Indiana by Uncle Stupid Ass who told them how pure and great it was, but they soon got tired of the attitude and it admitted it was great mistake and moved back to CA three months later. My mom and my step dad were not like me, they could fit into Indiana in a metropolitan area. But they got tired of heard blah blah blah CA is blah blah blah. Especially my step dad got tired rather quickly of the midwest. He was like I left Holland because it's just flat land and I want some rocks and mountains.

When I was in grad school we had a summer break, and I had heard by that time that people refer to the midwest as "the fly over states". I had to do some research at the Smithsonian later mid summer, I went to study the dulcimer collection. Anyway, I proposed to myself that I would ride the bus across the country instead of fly. I took some time. One night I left my apt near Lake Merritt in down town Oakland and walked to the Greyhound station with a duffle bag. I got on a bus about 10:30 at night and it headed south. I had driven I-5 enough times over the years that it was nothing I had to see, so I slept a little and as down came up I reckon we were between San Bernardino and Palm Springs...eventually hitting Needles CA, we were headed to Texas on I-10, my first stop through the fly overs. One the bus crossed over the Colorado River near Needles I was on the same course we had taken 12 years earlier to go to Indiana with our trailer and all our stuff. And I watched and relived the trip through New Mexico. I sat up near the driver so I could see the road.

There were lots of rocks in New Mexico, and a desert. And in Amarillo, there was more desert. I took a week in Texas a lurked around the UT library and saw some rock shows..then got on a bus and snaked my way over to DC via all those states under Indiana. And I stayed in places near the bus stations and observed the deep inner city of the stopovers. To be on a bus and not in control of who you travel with and listen to them talk in different regional accents, you realize how interesting and diverse the country really is.

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Leñador

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Richard Jernigan

Glad I've never dealt with that ignorance. I'm a typical Californian in that I can frame up a small single story in a day quite comfortably and spend the evening discussing fine wine and food. That's the thing about being Californian, we're not typical, you can't pigeon hole or type cast us, except I do eat tons of tacos l

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estebanana

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Oh if you do that they will make fun of your titanium framing hammer and California corners. Haha

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Leñador

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Richard Jernigan

And my california valley rafter framing? haha Always wondered if they called it that everywhere else......

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Piwin

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Leñador

Nah, we know you're all a godless bunch of aspiring actors who spend your days hugging gay trees and smoking drone-delivered weed that you bought with the rest of the country's tax money, all the while secretly plotting the Mexican takeover of the Midwest.
I read it on Breitbart. It must be true.
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Leñador

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C'mon man only the last half of that is true!
Viva Zapata!

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Piwin

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You better move fast because in France we're also plotting. We plan to steal all ze Americain wooman and make zem arrr loverrrs vhile all ze Americain men will work on ze clean-eneurgie snail farms zat belong to our socialist governement who will takes alls ze gun of America and give zem to the musleem. Only Wisconsin will be spar-red because zey respecte ze cheese. America will kneel before ze poweur of baguette.
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Leñador

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That all sounds fine, I prefer mexican women and love caracoles!

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Piwin

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Leñador

You arrr unflappabel. Beware, we have accordéons.

I'm such an idiot I made myself laugh with that last line. I think I'm going to petition the French government to make this our official national motto. "Welcome to France. Beware, we have accordeons".
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Leñador

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You don't think I grew up in Pacoima/Sylmar without loving accordion did you???




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estebanana

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CA probably makes more Cheese than Wisconsin, but who's counting.

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Leñador

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todos 'tan celosos.

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Piwin

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Leñador

Accordeons without berets. What is this madness??
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estebanana

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Richard Jernigan

Yes indeed Piwin, we Californians are as snooty as you Frenchies.

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mark indigo

 

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Cervantes

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When you say Paco, remember there are many important ones besides Pdl, Paco Pena, Paco Cepero, I probably missed some more but listen to them all.


Sure, there is Paco Peña, Paco Cepero, Paco Fernández, Paco Taranto, Paco Serrano, Paco del Pozo etc. etc.

But there is only one "Paco"

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Piwin

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This is how it's done California



One thing I can't stand to hear on the accordeon is the main riff to Edith Piaf's La Foule. 10 years of taking the metro everyday in Paris has just made me sick of hearing it. Kind of like the intro to Almoraima or the infamous jazz lick.
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Richard Jernigan

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Accordeons without berets. What is this madness??


People who are not from San Antonio trying to play the accordion? Sorry guys, nice try....



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estebanana

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You really flacoed him over.

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timoteo

 

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Piwin

The only accordian music I ever listen to is from LA:


Not the LA in CA, the other LA, the Acadian part ...
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Richard Jernigan

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The only accordian music I ever listen to is from LA

Not the LA in CA, the other LA, the Acadian part ...


Yes! We lived in Baton Rouge for two years when the kids were little. Some Fridays or Saturdays we would just pile into the VW Beetle and head out. You could stop at any little roadside place and there would be excellent food, and often some wonderful music. Never had a bad meal in south Louisiana. Loved it.

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estebanana

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Clearly the California boys picked a fight, you can't defend against Flaco or LA Acadian, so you offer Los Lobos for the draw.

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Piwin

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to estebanana

The truth is that the South-Eastern Europeans have us all beat, and not by a little, We're just bickering over who get's second place.

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Leñador

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****ing incredible!
Your'e absolutely right, the singing, the music, the whole thing, amazing. Had no idea it existed... thanks for that. It's like accordion flamenco! I have a Croatian buddy and he always just wants to listen to classic rock and metal. I'm gunna give him **** for never showing me this! Bastard......

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estebanana

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Croaking Croatas! Not so fast Jackson..............You have to count in The Southern Cone:



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Jun. 19 2017 5:44:23
 
estebanana

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These are East LA guys...



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Piwin

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RE: New to forum- 18 years old (Pica... (in reply to Leñador

Ahhh just lost the long post I was writing with one of those "operation not supported" messages...gah.

I'll do the short version then : if you want to listen to Roma music from the larger Balkans area, check out Taraful haiducilor (Taraf de haïdouks). They're probably the first band that successfuly brought that kind of music to a Western audience. In a full band setting, the accordeon takes a back seat with the cimbalom providing the baseline for the music while instruments like the violin or the tarogato stand out much more.
Speaking of backseats:



(extract from a documentary called Taraf de Haidouk: no man is a prophet in his own land)
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