Welcome to one of the most active flamenco sites on the Internet. Guests can read most posts but if you want to participate click here to register.
This site is dedicated to the memory of Paco de Lucía, Ron Mitchell, Guy Williams, Linda Elvira, Philip John Lee, Craig Eros, Ben Woods, David Serva and Tom Blackshear who went ahead of us.
We receive 12,200 visitors a month from 200 countries and 1.7 million page impressions a year. To advertise on this site please contact us.
|
|
|
Sparkly, twinkly, trebles [:D]
|
You are logged in as Guest
|
|
Users viewing this topic: none
|
|
Login  | |
|
   
Njål Bendixen
Posts: 65
Joined: Aug. 25 2016
|
 RE: Sparkly, twinkly, trebles [:D] (in reply to Leñador)
|
|
|
You could try nylgut trebles. Nylgut is a synthetic material with the same specific gravity as gut. Nylgut strings are an attempt at recreating the sound of gut strings. Gut strings are of course much brighter than nylon, so they may be just what you are looking for. Nylgut strings do not feel would like gut to play on, nylgut strings feel more like nylon to play on.
Nylgut strings are available both individual strings and as guitar sets. If you only need the trebles you may be better off buying individual strings. I recommend the following gauges to begin with if you are using Daddario basses:
68
82
98
You can always adjust the tension, for example if you prefer a brighter sounding 1st string you could try gauge 66.
If you prefer to purchase the full sets you should try the Alabastro sets first.
Nylgut works fantastically well with some guitars, but not with others. I think that all guitarists should try them, at least once.
https://www.aquilacorde.com/category/modern-instrument-sets/?lang=en
I just noticed that Aquila has introduced a new flamenco set, Granato, and a classical set, Rubino. These sets have trebles with metal powders mixed into the nylon to increase the specific gravity. I have long been thinking that this would be the solution to all string problems. Have any of you tried these strings?
Njål
|
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Jun. 18 2017 11:31:28
 |
|
estebanana
Posts: 9351
Joined: Oct. 16 2009
|
|
RE: Sparkly, twinkly, trebles [:D] (in reply to Leñador)
|
|
|
Here is the link to the strings by mail site. If you search on carbon trebles, like I did, all the treble sets some up that have teeth.
You can order three or four sets that look interesting- The Hannabachs have bite, you might try a carbon set-
https://www.stringsbymail.com/search/results.html?inc_subcat=1&search_in_description=1&categories_id=&keyword=carbon+treble&x=0&y=0
I have used the new Aquila strings on my guitars probably not what you are looking for. Nylgut also not what you want.
Here is a sampler pack of trebles with punch: https://www.stringsbymail.com/treble-material-collection-from-strings-by-mail-6056.html
That sample pack plus a set of Hannabach trebles and you can figure out a lot.
Description
This collection offers experimentation in different treble material. There are quite a few options to explore. The included documentation will guide you through the different compositions. This collection contains treble sets only.
D'Addario Titanium T45 Treble Set
Galli Carbonio (Carbon) GC90 Treble Set
Luthier Black Nylon Treble Set
Augustine Regal Clear Nylon Treble Set
Savarez Rectified Nylon 520R Treble Set
All collections include short descriptions on each product as seen in the picture.
_________________________
The Augustines are similar to D'Addario- but the other four might be good, maybe ask them if they can make a sample pack substituting a Hannabach set for Augustine- When I sent you the guitar it had either D'Addario or Augustine medium tension, that is what i was using last year. I also sent out Aquila Rubino on classicals.
I also happen to like the Alliance sets a lot, but some players think they color the sound of the guitar too much for trial purposes. At one time I kept a pre stretched Savarez set in the shop so I could change to that set for showing the guitar with D'Addario vs. Alliance - Savarez sets make guitar sound very sensual or seductive in the sound quality and I have encountered people who want to hear the guitar with less colorful sounding strings. If you are playing for dancers and classes, Savarez basses are a waste of money, they wear faster. But they sound great.
Just my opinion, but hard bright sounding E and B can help you do a lot of work, but I dislike the idea f making the G string the 'smooth link' between the B and the D. I think the funky goofy sounding G string that does not marry the trebles and basses together is much better sounding. The G is the strangest string on the guitar and it is the most oud sounding and mood bendable string. It has a lot of magic and covering it up with the Composite material that aims to sand the edges off that funk is non flamenco idea. I like fat thuddy soft G strings that you can sink into and contrast of a nasty sound D string. But that's just my opinion. I ditched that composite material in 2000...
_____________________________
https://www.stephenfaulkguitars.com
|
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Jun. 18 2017 13:02:50
|
|
Richard Jernigan
Posts: 3430
Joined: Jan. 20 2004
From: Austin, Texas USA
|
|
RE: Sparkly, twinkly, trebles [:D] (in reply to Cervantes)
|
|
|
quote:
ORIGINAL: Cervantes
I have tried many many strings. Its funny because I always avoided D'Addario per your dull sounding assessment.
This time last year I bought a new classical guitar from its maker. He insisted I keep D'Addario EJ-46 (high tension) strings on it. I have, and have replaced them only once or twice during the past year. The guitar has developed nicely. It was loud, resonant and brilliant to begin with. Now it is more even in response up and down the fretboard, and I would say the tone is more "integrated." At first I thought the D'Addarios might have a slight tendency to dullness, but I don't think so any longer.
I have an Abel Garcia spruce/Brazilian classical that I had Savarez Cantiga basses and New Crystal trebles (normal tension) on for a few years. I arrived at this by trying a bunch of different strings on a '73 Romanillos, and deciding I like the Savarez the best. So I put them on my other two classicals at the time.
The Savarez basses on the Garcia got old (as they do fairly quickly) so I decided to put a full set D'Addario EJ-45s on it, since I was liking the EJ-46s on the new classical. "Oops, too dull," I thought. But i had other classicals to play, so I decided to see how the D'Addarios would develop on the Garcia. Coming finally to the point, after a month of mostly sitting in the case, and another month of getting played about ten hours a week, I like the D'Addarios better than I did the Savarez. After stretching and being played, the D'Addarios stopped being dull.
This is not to say D'Addarios are the best strings. The best strings depend on your guitar, how you play, the shape and length of your fingernails, what you want the sound to be....and a few dozen other factors.
If you're not satisfied with the strings you have on, try some others. Use the ones you like best.
But I can see why a luthier would want to have a "standard string." How else could he measure his progress?
RNJ
|
|
|
|
REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |
Date Jun. 23 2017 23:15:52
|
|
 New Messages |
 No New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/ New Messages |
 Hot Topic w/o New Messages |
 Locked w/ New Messages |
 Locked w/o New Messages |
|
Post New Thread
Reply to Message
Post New Poll
Submit Vote
Delete My Own Post
Delete My Own Thread
Rate Posts
|
|
|
Forum Software powered by ASP Playground Advanced Edition 2.0.5
Copyright © 2000 - 2003 ASPPlayground.NET |
0.125 secs.
|
Printable Version
