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Escribano
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 RE: I don't always drink coffee... (in reply to Leñador)
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But I'm a fat American on vacation, I need huevos, or something substantial, bread for vacation breakfast just doesn't cut it, beautiful though the alameda is. I tend to find a place that serves a decent breakfast and go there daily then basically snack on random Spanish food all day, no big lunch or dinner.
Just try and find a place that does a desayuno alpujarreño.
Otherwise, try asking for tocino or bacón, huevos fritas, patatas fritas y morcilla. Probably more common nearer Granada then Jerez, where coffee and churros should be available on the street, near El Gallo Azul.
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Date Feb. 20 2017 8:35:03
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BarkellWH
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RE: I don't always drink coffee... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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The only other place I have been that could claim such a record is south Louisiana. We lived in Baton Rouge for two years, and made it fairly often to New Orleans. Never had a meal that was less than good, and had several really great ones, some of them in places we just wandered into.
I entered the U.S. Air Force in July 1963, and after basic training at Lackland AFB in San Antonio was transferred to Keesler AFB in Biloxi, Mississippi for seven months of intelligence training. (Let's not have any jokes about "military intelligence.") Biloxi is 90 miles from New Orleans, and I made many weekend trips to New Orleans to enjoy its delights. For my money, New Orleans can lay claim to being the cullinary capital of the United States, especially when it comes to sea food. The sauces of New Orleans rival those of France in my book, and the spices create exquisite flavors no matter what type of sea food is on the menu. Actually, I would cast the net wider than just sea food in New Orleans, but sea food is paramount.
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Date Feb. 20 2017 13:05:42
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Richard Jernigan
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From: Austin, Texas USA
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RE: I don't always drink coffee... (in reply to Piwin)
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ORIGINAL: Piwin
It seems to be a national passtime in France to diss American food. I've never really understood it as everywhere I've been in the US there have been some decent things to eat. I think French tourists probably just never get over the fact that there are fast-food chains everywhere and must assume that's all there is on offer.
When I lived in Santa Barbara we had French customers. We went more often to France than they came to California.
We met in Paris and Bordeaux. The Admiral in charge of the French project was something of a gourmet. He said we could have used the Aerospatiale facility in Nice, but the food was better in Bordeaux. When our French friends came to Santa Barbara they said they really enjoyed the food and wine, probably thanks to one of my California colleagues who was President of the Santa Barbara Wine and Food Society at the time. He had around 350 cases in his cellar.
When I lived in Palo Alto my girlfriend and I ate regularly at a number of good restaurants in San Francisco, featuring a wide range of cuisines and prices. One of the best was a very economical Salvadoran restaurant in the Mission district. Most of the employees were members of the owner's extended family. The owner stood at the cash register next to the window where the food came out of the kitchen. Every dish had to meet his very high standards. Eventually the neighborhood got too rough for the family trade, the civil war in El Salvador ended, the owner's sons graduated from high school and got scholarships to university, so he closed up and went back home.
Austin is famous for barbecue, the small town of Taylor to the northeast has one excellent place, and Lockhart to the southeast has several, of which two are very good.
Austin also has one of the best Mexican restaurants anywhere--I have been in every state in Mexico. The Fonda San Miguel in Austin is not "Tex-Mex," which can be good if done right, but it's usually terrible in Austin. The Fonda features classic Mexican cuisine, as you would get in a high quality traditional restaurant in the capital, Puebla or Cuernavaca, for example. They have been doing good business for 42 years, and during that time I have been a steady patron when living in Austin or visiting.
There are a rash of trendy (and expensive) restaurants in Austin, with fashionable cuisines, but in my experience they are mostly hit-or-miss. The hits are nice, the misses feel expensive for what you are served.
For Tex-Mex, stick to San Antonio and points south. There you might mention you were in the mood for chiles rellenos, and spend the next ten minutes discussing details and preferences of preparation at half a dozen different places known for their versions.
RNJ
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Date Feb. 20 2017 19:16:42
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BarkellWH
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RE: I don't always drink coffee... (in reply to Richard Jernigan)
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One of the best was a very economical Salvadoran restaurant in the Mission district.
One of the hallmarks of dining in the Washington, DC metropolitan area (to include the Northern Virginia and Maryland suburbs) over the past 40 years is the proliferation of very good restaurants established by refugees and asylees that begin to appear about six months after an upheaval or revolution in some part of the world. Some months after the 1974 Mengistu revolution that deposed Emperor Haile Selassie in Ethiopia, Ethiopian restaurants began to appear. After South Vietnam fell in 1975, Vietnamese restaurants sprouted up. After the 1979 Iranian revolution that deposed the Shah, Persian restaurants began to appear. After the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan, Afghan restaurants appeared. And during the Central American (particularly Salvadoran) wars of the 1980s, Salvadoran restaurants appeared. Later, as more and more citizens of these countries spread out in the U.S., other cities and regions had the good fortune to experience these restaurants, but they always got their start among the nucleus that centered on the Washington, DC area, as it drew them first as the natural magnet that it is.
One interesting thing about the Salvadoran restaurants is that at first no one knew anything about Salvadoran food and their businesses lagged. Finally, some Salvadorans decided to advertise and prepare Salvadoran and Mexican food together. Business picked up because gringos began to go to the restaurants and order Mexican, but they gradually were introduced to Salvadoran food at the same time. Eventually, Salvadoran restaurants proliferated like mushrooms, and one saw (and continues to see) straight Salvadoran restaurants everywhere. I've always thought that the U.S. has been the cullinary beneficiary of upheavals in the world. And it is reason enough, in my book, to welcome refugees from various parts of the world. Not only does it enhance the gene pool in the U.S., it also enhances our cuisine.
Bill
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Date Feb. 20 2017 22:27:31
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Ruphus
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RE: I don't always drink coffee... (in reply to Piwin)
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At least in the times before my first visit to the USA there appeared to be a prejudice according to which cuisine there was not good. No idea where that came from.
My impression was the opposite, and on top, apparently because of full and fresh supply, food used to be even inexpensive. From there, nowhere seem plates so loaded, specially with protein.
The best Greek restaurant I have tried was in N.Y. And while I don´t really like Japanese food too much, my girl-friend was blown away by the offering there. (An Italian. I would had never expected her to be liking such.)
And California seemed a Mekka for fish and seafood.
The only thing that was not satisfactory to me was bread. (Back then. I´m shure it to have changed by now.) Worst of all those inflatable sponges for hamburgers. From there, first things visitors from USA would fall for in central Europe used to be bread varieties and beers.
And one thing that had me in conflict were those Kentucky Fried Chicken. Panade to die for galore ..., but then there was something not right with the chicken ... generally in USA. A very strange taste to it. It puzzled me and I remember telling friends in Europe about that.
Later on I learned the secret. The chicken meat get´s treated with chlorine. How on earth does anyone ever come to introducing such procedure?
Yours truly has had several infections with salmonella in Germany. One so heavily that it used to take me about two hours from the decision to crawl to the bathroom and the actual execution of the idea.
Still, better having one of these events every 15-20 years or so, than having each and every chicken ruined.
Even for me, who in spite of so loving the taste, is consuming fellow species rather seldomly.
Anyhow, hardly any place like the USA for feasting well and all cuisines from around the world. No wonder, in a market which in general provides almost everything one could be thinking of, with ease.
PS:
Don´t have me started on animal products where I´m now. Local cutthroats tend to learn every foreign dirty trick right away, and put their own inventions on top.
Not shying away from feeding all stuff and chemicals, but even keeping the poultry constantly sedated for it to make weight faster than turbo breeding already does.
With customers then leaving all skin and fat in the shop (and all the injected water too), the method benefits exclusively sinister breeders.
Food product being badly spoiled here, and extremely expensive on top.
And the average life expectation of over 70 years is a lie. It ought to be around 40-50.
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