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benros

 

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lebanon cedar back and sides? 
hey all, did anyone of you build a flamenca with lebanon cedar? or do you have seen and played one? do you think its suitable for flamencas?
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rombsix

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
Stop deforesting my country!

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jshelton5040

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
You can build a flamenco guitar out of any wood that will bend. Lebanon Cedar (Spanish Cedar?) should work fine.

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Andy Culpepper

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
I made a guitar with Spanish Cedar back and sides a couple years ago, worked out very very well.



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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 7 2016 20:57:38
 
benros

 

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
thank you for your answers and your photo, andy. your guitar looks really nice! but, as far as i know, libanon cedar is a real cedar (cedrus, botanically a needlewood, conifer), whereas spanish cedar is cedro, cedrela, a kind of mahagoni, which is a leafttree.
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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
quote:

libanon cedar is a real cedar (cedrus, botanically a needlewood, conifer), whereas spanish cedar is cedro, cedrela, a kind of mahagoni, which is a leafttree.

Should be even more normal than Spanish cedar then no? More like cypress no?

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
Cedrus can be quite similar to cypress (mass/young module) while cedrela is a different stuff, being among the lightest mahoganies.
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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
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hey all, did anyone of you build a flamenca with lebanon cedar? or do you have seen and played one? do you think its suitable for flamencas?


Yeah I made one and sold it to Noah to take on his ark. Paco De Lucia inscribed the Ten Commandments of Flamenco on it with a marking pen, but nobody played it because we could never pry it out of Heston's cold dead hands.

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constructordeguitarras

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
Do you know a good source of this wood looted from Ramzi's country?

And please build it and show us the result.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 9 2016 2:14:36
 
rombsix

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to constructordeguitarras) 
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Do you know a good source of this wood looted from Ramzi's country?




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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 9 2016 6:40:10
 
benros

 

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to constructordeguitarras) 
the wood is from turkey. i just bought a few sets. it seems to be rare in guitar building, but suitable for flamencos. i only found one guitar on mundo flamenco from the son of bernd martin and one on flamencoguitarsforsale build out of it.
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mqbernardo

 

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
Espen in German sells Lebanon cedar backs and sides, tops and necks. Seems stiffer than cypress. Wonderful smell.
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constructordeguitarras

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
I just came across this by accident:



Uploaded on Sep 21, 2011

Amir John Haddad played this "Bulerías" in september 2011 during a recording session for the website of mundo flamenco. He plays a 2011 Lucas Martin guitar made of Lebanoncedar and german spruce.

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  REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE |  Date Oct. 12 2016 1:58:23
 
benros

 

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RE: lebanon cedar back and sides? (in reply to benros) 
thank you ethan for the hint! seems to work. i found out that lebanon cedar is lighter than cypress and far more stiff. not too bad. its even more stiff than cedro, so probably also good for necks. i think i will build one after i finished the cypress blanca, that i build at the moment.
mqbernando, ive seen the lebanon cedar from espen, but was not convinced by the quality. the smell is really nice. the have also mulberry, which also looks really great for blancas.
greetings,
ben
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