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Cervantes
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From: Encinitas, CA USA
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 RE: advice on arpeggio (in reply to Piwin)
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ORIGINAL: Piwin
Thanks for the advice guys. I would have liked to upload a video to give you a better idea of what I'm talking about but I'm stuck with tiny notebook for the time being and I can't seem to record anything on it (OK, I'll also admit to being really bad with computers  )
@Cervantes. Do you manage to get a clear and powerful sound keeping your thumb "as far too the left as possible"? I used to play like that, but then I wasn't happy with the sound levels between the thumb and the arpeggios (i.e. in the case of arpeggios used as ornementation over a melodic line played with the thumb, the melody wouldn't stand out enough, so I switched to a position where my thumb was closer to a vertical position, closer to the traditional "pulgar" position, as a result my thumb is almost permanently bent backwards, somewhat like V. Amigo).
I might have said something a little misleading. I said as far as possible to the left because that is what I need to do to keep my thumb from drifting towards my fingers. In reality there just needs to be some space between the thumb and fingers, my teacher says the fingers get "afraid" to play if the thumb is too close. I think sound can be good at different angles as long as you adjust your fingers for that position. Sound is from the nail pushing downward and through the string and force coming from the knuckle. This is where the finger to palm exercise helps. My teacher also talks a lot about planting as Ricardo mentioned. I have a big problem with my m finger going to far out and hitting string above it so I am always working on that. Of course all of this is easy to forget and go back to old habits while just playing so it requires constant attention.
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Date Mar. 14 2016 15:25:35
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Piwin
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RE: advice on arpeggio (in reply to aloysius)
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@aloysius. I play a 2008 Hermanos Borja. The technical indication on the stamp indicates "El Viejin". My understanding is that it was one of a series of a dozen or so made with specs "provided by" him, i.e., based on a guitar he had commissioned. I don't know nearly as much about guitars as most of the people on the foro, but the feel I get from it is very similar to certain Condes, light and thin. In fact, I'm wondering if the lack of "width" might be part of the problem, as it may have contributed to me shifting my hand lower down the guitar.
But no I doubt it's the guitar distorting the sound (I wish it were so I wouldn't have to rework my hand position!). Yesterday I figured out what I think may be the problem (not sure yet...still have to practice): I think it's in the motion of my fingers, I tend to "curl" them too much, i.e. if I exaggerate the motion and follow through all the way up to the palm, my finger tips end up in the middle of the palm instead of the lower end (in other words, I think I must have slipped into getting power from the middle joints instead of the knuckles). Don't know if that makes sense but I'm looking into it. That was somewhat the sense of my question to Grisha about keeping his fingers "straight", which would suggest getting the power directly from the knuckles.
@Grisha. A million times thank you! That really helps. I can tell there is more movement from the knuckle then when I play so this confirms what I've been thinking about me having slipped into playing with the middle joints only. So it may not be the angle of attack after all. Yesterday a friend of mine told me to just focus on playing from the knuckle, since if I do that the movement of the middle joints should just naturally follow. Would you agree?
I remember tearing it up (at least we thought we we're tearing it up! ) in the Paris metro with friends on a rumba version of "highway to hell" (autopista hasta el infierno lol). Fortunately it was before the time everyone had video on their smartphones coz if that video ever got out there my career prospects would be over! 
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Just so you know, I did more than one take. On a previous take I went to Metallica's song at some point. I thought it to be too much, so I recorded again.
