Revisiting papier mâché as tone material

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Ruphus

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Revisiting papier mâché as tone ma...

Torres´ famous demo as full body example:

Seems as if it increasingly proves that it doesn´t take exotic woods, rather than know-how.

I at least find it fascinating that feather light construction of cardboard must not mean at all drawback in resonating properties. And in view of traditional full-bodies which partially used to weigh a ton, anyway.

Enjoy!

Ruphus

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Stephen Eden

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

Pretty cool. Not sure all those holes would work well for an acoustic guitar though ;)

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2016 10:41:23

Ruphus

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

That´s just the structure they employed for this task.

For acoustics demand there would likely be settling on another structural concept.

Besides: When the video was shown to me, on first glimpse I thought the surface would be sealed with some transparent thin yet sturdy layer. Obviously not in this case. Should be doable though with a poly-X something.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2016 10:47:19

Stephen Eden

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

I know Ruphus I was just messing with you.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2016 11:14:33

Ruphus

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

;O)

Asides: Ain´t material technology fascinating these days?
Cardboard capable of holding guitar necks and even great weight and impact as snow board.
Glass that takes temperature shocks easily (which was only provided by one single brand, when I was young) or can´t be broken with a sledgehammer.
Coatings that yield near zero friction and extreme surface hardening, yada yada.

And on wednesday I was informed about the solution for lasting digital storage finally found (till now tape used to be most durable).

From now on you can store like 360TB data on such a little thing and have it preserved for millions of years (unlike with CDs plastic that has some of my older Albums degraded already / made unreadable).

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2016 11:48:28

estebanana

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

I'll build you perfect copy of the Torres papier mache guitar for $5000.00 for $10,000 I'll make you a perfect copy of a Picasso sheet metal cubist guitar.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2016 13:12:57

jshelton5040

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to estebanana)

this is not a guitar....Renee Magritte

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constructordeguitarras

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to jshelton5040)

quote:

this is not a guitar

I agree. Must be a curmudgeon thing.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2016 15:08:09

Escribano

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

Having built and modded several electrics, you can pretty much make one out of anything sturdy enough to take the stress, but cardboard is a zero tone choice. No density, little mass and very little sustain.

The application was much better showcased on Apollo 13 (with loads of gaffer tape, of course).

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 26 2016 16:10:24

Ruphus

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

Hah, the "a human can´t travel faster than 30 km/h" fraction!

Simon,

Could the cardboard that you are familar with withstand the use as a snowboard?

Ruphus

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estebanana

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

A cardboard guitar would be great, but everyone one wants Brazilian Cardboard.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 27 2016 0:30:09

Ruphus

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

Including those carboard varieties that grow in Brasilian colonies in Latin America, Africa and Indonesia.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Feb. 27 2016 9:44:02

David LaPlante

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RE: Revisiting papier mâché as ton... (in reply to Ruphus)

I built a copy of the Torres FE 14 about eight years ago. As in the original I used cardboard (a fairly dense illustration board ) for the back and sides. Top and neck were high quality spruce and Spanish Cedar.
The guitar lack as bit of volume due to the lower density of the cardboard I think but sounds very good.
Pictures on my web site.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 7 2016 14:22:00