I found Indian rosewood

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Ahmed Flamenco

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I found Indian rosewood

guys by chance I was asking about Indian rosewood and the person selling woods told me that he has,but there are many species known as (saysam and another specie called sag).
so could anybody recommend specific kind by an image.
finally I will use quarter sawn sycamore for blanca and quarter sawn rosewood for negra.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 22 2015 14:49:24

krichards

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)

The species is dalbergia latifolia
Plenty of pictures available online

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 22 2015 15:25:23

tijeretamiel

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)

The 'other' Indian RW - Dalbergia Sissoo, it could be a good choice for a flamenco guitar than Latifolia, it's lighter, kind of in the mould of Palo Escrito and Panama Rosewood.

I think the 'saysham' might be the Sissoo - it's Indian name is 'Sheesham'.

Sissoo is often referred to as 'North Indian Rosewood', here is a picture of such a guitar

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 22 2015 15:28:40

Ahmed Flamenco

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to tijeretamiel)

the photos online for the dalbergia sisso are not like the piece I've seen,It is more similar to the latifolia but tighter grain and deeper color.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 22 2015 16:23:44

keith

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)

Ahmed, the on-line site, wood-database is a great resource. below is a link to the site. Just click the letter R at the top and it will take you to the real Dalbergia rosewoods and the non-Dalbergia "rosewoods". Interestingly D. retusa, Cocobolo, is listed in the C's and not the R's. Not sure why but your wood maybe elsewhere so you may have to type it in the search box.

http://www.wood-database.com

Here is a link to all of the Dalbergias.

http://www.wood-database.com/wood-identification/by-scientific-name/#d

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 22 2015 17:09:31

Ahmed Flamenco

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to keith)

Anyway will be any kind of rosewood I get good for a negra or a classical?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 23 2015 16:47:59

keith

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)

ahmed, ultimately you have to make that decision but indian rosewood is a good all around rosewood for both classical and negra guitars. it seems the limitation of available tone woods is your biggest hurdle so even though indian may a good all around rosewood you may not have any from which to choose. your best bet might be to find out what wood is available and use the wood database as your first stop for information and then proceed forward.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 23 2015 19:14:57

mqbernardo

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)

Hi Ahmed, just an opinion: padouk/takola/coral is a wonderful tonewood - stiff, ringy, easy to work, stable , easy to find in quarter sawn form and cheap. Some dislike its color (I don't) and the dust is a nuisance - if you can't find a good cut of rosewood this could be a cheap alternative. Being of African origin, maybe it could be easier to find there?

Anyway, good luck.
Miguel.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 23 2015 22:07:49

printer2

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)

quote:

t indian rosewood is a good all around rosewood f

I bought a number of sets of Padouk for about half the cost of IR. Nice stuff.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 23 2015 22:18:32

mqbernardo

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)

Forgot to tell, padouk pores are on the large size.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 23 2015 22:40:48

Anders Eliasson

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Ahmed Flamenco)

Ahmed already has Padouk.

Yes, it has big pores and its splintery, so care has to be taken when bending and with general handling.
When I lived in Granada 8 years ago, I used a pro French polisher for the finishing. He said that Padauk was the wood where he had seen most cracks.

Ahmed, I think you can use all kinds of rosewoods if the set is made of quality wood, is quatersawn and aged enough time.
BUT!!! its impossible to say without seing the wood, and a poor quality mobile phone photo on an internet forum says very little.
So, you have to learn to judge yourself. Go see the wood, touch it, tap it and listen to it. If you like it and the price is fair, buy it and use it.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 24 2015 6:59:20

Ahmed Flamenco

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RE: I found Indian rosewood (in reply to Anders Eliasson)

It is not sold as a set, the seller has solid pieces and cut the set according to my request,and what I really liked in an oud rip of rosewood I've seen that it is soft and seems to be easy for bending.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Sep. 24 2015 12:16:03