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BarkellWH
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 RE: tuner becoming stiff (in reply to Miguel de Maria)
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Miguel,
That Hand, Foot, and Mouth disease sounds terrible. Did you go to a physician? Any idea how you contracted it?
Regarding a luthier, I have visited James Greenberg, owner of Zavaleta's (look up his website) in Tucson (actually Oro Valley, where Marta and I just visited), and in fact several years ago bought a Manueal Adalid blanca from him. I know he has a luthier in Tucson that does work for him. I forget the luthier's name, but I'm sure he is good because James has him work on the high-end guitars he imports from Spain.
I'm sure if you E-mail James via his website, he probably could advise you of the luthier he uses. It might be worth a trip to Tucson if you could obtain the services of a very good luthier.
Cheers,
Bill
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Date Jul. 1 2015 2:56:06
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Miguel de Maria
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From: Phoenix, AZ
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More tuner issues (in reply to Miguel de Maria)
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Last we left our hero, he had used some mineral oil to loosen up his tuners as suggested by an old wives' tale (just joking: tip from Ricardo); it did help somewhat. Although I meant to replace the tuners, I have a lot of gigs and just never made the time. Life went on... this morning, I was changing the strings when one of the gears popped off the 2nd string. Recall, the tightness had been on the 6th string. There is a screw that holds on the gear, and it was missing. There is also a washer under the screw, and I never heard or noticed that fall, either. I was down on the ground for ten minutes and could not find it at all. I did not hear anything. I thank maybe it must have fallen off at some earlier time and I never noticed it. I have been playing gigs for the last 4 days straight and never noticed anything.
I remembered that I had some unused tuners down in the garage from 2003 when I thought I was going to become a luthier despite never having made anything out of wood, not even a birdhouse. Turns out they are the cheap Gotoh tuners. I meant to cannibalize them, but they have different screw sizes. I ended up just replacing one side. It fits well, although there is a bit of tightness. Three of the screws line up almost perfectly, the other does not. I guess that means I should order some good Gotohs and it will work fine. These are the cheapest tuners, and lighter and have a cheaper feel than what Cordoba was using stock. It seems to work, hopefully it won't fail in the next few weeks.
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Date Sep. 16 2015 16:07:13
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Ricardo
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RE: More tuner issues (in reply to Miguel de Maria)
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ORIGINAL: Miguel de Maria
Last we left our hero, he had used some mineral oil to loosen up his tuners as suggested by an old wives' tale (just joking: tip from Ricardo); it did help somewhat. Although I meant to replace the tuners, I have a lot of gigs and just never made the time. Life went on... this morning, I was changing the strings when one of the gears popped off the 2nd string. Recall, the tightness had been on the 6th string. There is a screw that holds on the gear, and it was missing. There is also a washer under the screw, and I never heard or noticed that fall, either. I was down on the ground for ten minutes and could not find it at all. I did not hear anything. I thank maybe it must have fallen off at some earlier time and I never noticed it. I have been playing gigs for the last 4 days straight and never noticed anything.
I remembered that I had some unused tuners down in the garage from 2003 when I thought I was going to become a luthier despite never having made anything out of wood, not even a birdhouse. Turns out they are the cheap Gotoh tuners. I meant to cannibalize them, but they have different screw sizes. I ended up just replacing one side. It fits well, although there is a bit of tightness. Three of the screws line up almost perfectly, the other does not. I guess that means I should order some good Gotohs and it will work fine. These are the cheapest tuners, and lighter and have a cheaper feel than what Cordoba was using stock. It seems to work, hopefully it won't fail in the next few weeks.
Glad my advice gave you a temporary fix. Unfortunately you missed the part where I talked also about the loose screw situation....while perhaps the 6th string might have been in order, my implications were to oil ALL the gears and tighten ALL the screws, sorry I didn't make that clear earlier. For anybody else that might come across this thread with similar problems, it doesn't hurt to keep maintainence on your tuning machines on occasion.
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Date Sep. 17 2015 16:13:36
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Ricardo
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RE: tuner becoming stiff (in reply to Miguel de Maria)
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In the classic "the foro told you so!!!" JINX....a month ago I was just finished with final rehersal touch ups and had AN HOUR to go before the big theatre show we do each year, totally sold out, I was back stage changing my strings when the D string tuner froze. I haden't made it up to pitch. I back wound it and tried again. The gear was worn totally and at the same position in either direction it froze and finally stripped so the gear teeth would just hop over the worm, not tuning up any further. THANKS FORO!!! 
Considering the stress involved with opening night of show...and I am the ONLY Guitarist with NO way to fix it and only an hour to go, I told none of the dancers or show promoters, (only the singers new and were stressing), I called my wife, luckily not working that night....she ran home grabbed another guitar and drove to the theatre 45 minutes away!
So 10 minutes to show time, and the other guitar arrived with really old dead strings. I changed em in 5 minutes and we went out. I was worried about the fact we had already done sound checks with other guitar but it was basically fine. Now these tuners were my most used tuners (bass side) than any other guitar I own. Gotohs...pretty expensive ones. THey out lasted 2.5 tap plates at least...but...I have to go on record that if tuners DO become stiff, oil em to keep em going at home but if it is a gig guitar, change the tuners as others suggested. Nothing lasts forever for sure, learned my lesson, carry on. 
PS....I want to show pic of my new tuner, but foro no longer accepts photos from my photo library using Ipod/Iphone....anybody work out this problem?
(figured out this "trick" at least)
http://www.foroflamenco.com/upfiles/313/Ki19506.jpeg
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