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malagueñas why not a popular solo t... 
Does anyone have any thoughts as to why malagueñas is not terribly common as a solo guitar toque? It has beautiful falsetas, which all guitarists learn, and it could constitute a nice vehicle for free-rhythmic exploration of basic por-arriba tonality (the way granaínas and tarantas do for their respective tonalities), but it is not heard nearly so often as those toques, nor even so much as soleá, bulerías etc as solo guitar items?

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Ricardo

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RE: malagueñas why not a popular so... (in reply to Steelhead) 
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Does anyone have any thoughts as to why malagueñas is not terribly common as a solo guitar toque? It has beautiful falsetas, which all guitarists learn, and it could constitute a nice vehicle for free-rhythmic exploration of basic por-arriba tonality (the way granaínas and tarantas do for their respective tonalities), but it is not heard nearly so often as those toques, nor even so much as soleá, bulerías etc as solo guitar items?


no special reason...the other keys seem to afford more exotic colors for free rhythm exploration, where as the por arriba or por medio keys afford the modern player more interesting things to explore "a compas". Keep in mind, even Ramon Montoya was dealing with this back when accompanying Chacon and others...such that he instead used Taranta or Granaina keys to accompany the free malaguenas (thanks to the high key of the vocal).

I am sure if PDL had done more with the form than what he had on his first record, it would have caught on to inspire other players.

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RE: malagueñas why not a popular so... (in reply to Steelhead) 
I have a theory- at least for amateur guitarists- I think the toques libres scare people because they require particular skill to make them sound musical without rhythm to help.
At least with tarantas, mineras etc you have the very distinctive tonality to help/hide behind. But with malaguena do you have to play expressively to make it sound distinctive and musical as the tonality is standard.
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RE: malagueñas why not a popular so... (in reply to Steelhead) 
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(the way granaínas and tarantas do for their respective tonalities)


just a spin off question what the tonalities of tarantas and granaina termed as, if at all there is a term.
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RE: malagueñas why not a popular so... (in reply to trivedi234) 
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(the way granaínas and tarantas do for their respective tonalities)


just a spin off question what the tonalities of tarantas and granaina termed as, if at all there is a term.


Taranta is F# Phyrigain (2# sharing scales with keys of D major and B minor), and Granaina is B Phrygian (one #, sharing scales with G major and E minor keys).

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