Flamenco/Classical guitar with Wide, thin neck at the nut

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Sam80

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Joined: Mar. 13 2015

Flamenco/Classical guitar with Wide,...

Hello everyone,

I'm a new member and this is my first post here.

I have a Katoh MCG40C classical guitar which I changed the stock string and put some La Bella 2001 Flamenco string on it and it sounds good now.

The guitar neck has 52mm width and 21mm thickness at the nut but I played some guitars with wider neck and I liked the playability.

I need some recommendation on a flamenco/classical guitar with wide and thin neck.

Any help would be much appreciated.

Thank you.

ps: The guitar I played was Miguel Almeria 50-CR which sounds amazing for it's price.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 13 2015 2:30:13

tele

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RE: Flamenco/Classical guitar with W... (in reply to Sam80)

You can make a custom guitar with your own neck profile at any pro luthier, 21mm at the 1st fret seems pretty normal thickness. A luthier also can sand down your current neck and apply shellac on it but it can be expensive. Too thin isn't also very good since the neck will warp easier than thicker necks if there is no reinforcement.

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keith

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RE: Flamenco/Classical guitar with W... (in reply to tele)

sam80--three ways to go here. 1. have a guitar built with the specs you want. 2. try to find a guitar with a wider nut--say the guitar you mentioned (if available and/or in your price range or 3. modify the guitar you have (an inexpensive chinese made guitar).

the first two options will cost you a good chunk of change but the trade off is that you will get a much better guitar. the last option could be done for about $20 and some time if you decide to do it; more if you have someone else do it. you will not be able to widen the nut but you can change the string spacing with a new nut. i would imagine the string spacing on the nut on your guitar is probably 41-42mm. you can buy pre-slotted nuts on ebay for about $10 with a string spacing up to 44mm. of course you will sacrifice a little room from e string to the edge of the fretboard. it is do-able. as to the neck, you can strip of the poly goop off the neck and shape it the way you want. once shaped you can use off the shelf polyurethane as the finish. i did this procedure to guitar last year and the off the shelf polyurethane, to me, allows for a better feel than the catalyzed poly goop used in factories.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 13 2015 11:38:20

Sam80

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RE: Flamenco/Classical guitar with W... (in reply to Sam80)

Thanks guys, unfortunately modifying guitar isn't a cheap option in Australia as there aren't many guitar makers around + my guitar worth only a few hundred dollars. (AUD $350).

If someone has come across a guitar with wider and thin (thinner than 21mm), please list the model so I can look for the specs and price. Thank you.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 16 2015 1:46:40

keith

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RE: Flamenco/Classical guitar with W... (in reply to Sam80)

Johnny Walker, the luthier not the booze, makes a nice thin neck guitar and can make one 54mm. His flamencos go for $2500 USA. I own one--well built and nice sound/playability. He is located in Oklahoma.

http://johnnywalkerguitars.com/

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milanlondons

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RE: Flamenco/Classical guitar with W... (in reply to Sam80)

Jeronimo Pena Fernandez and Jose Ruiz Pedregosa both make guitars with a wider width at the nut and chunkier necks.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 31 2015 8:06:05

Ricardo

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RE: Flamenco/Classical guitar with W... (in reply to milanlondons)

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ORIGINAL: milanlondons

Jeronimo Pena Fernandez and Jose Ruiz Pedregosa both make guitars with a wider width at the nut and chunkier necks.

odd you bring them up...I love JPF guitars and own one...it is not especially wide. I would say it is skinnier than modern conde, and certainly not beefy. The widest/flatest I feel are Reyes /Reyes jr and probably the copies. It is like a 2x4 plank, no roundness. The beefiest neck I played was the old montoya esteso from 1923...it was like a baseball bat.

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Sr. Martins

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RE: Flamenco/Classical guitar with W... (in reply to Ricardo)

Round necks feel wider and flatter when you pull the nut a bit towards the bass side

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 31 2015 19:07:37

milanlondons

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RE: Flamenco/Classical guitar with W... (in reply to Ricardo)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

quote:

ORIGINAL: milanlondons

Jeronimo Pena Fernandez and Jose Ruiz Pedregosa both make guitars with a wider width at the nut and chunkier necks.

odd you bring them up...I love JPF guitars and own one...it is not especially wide. I would say it is skinnier than modern conde, and certainly not beefy. The widest/flatest I feel are Reyes /Reyes jr and probably the copies. It is like a 2x4 plank, no roundness. The beefiest neck I played was the old montoya esteso from 1923...it was like a baseball bat.

Ricardo