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guitarbuddha

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Autumn Leaves

Here is a key centre.

Gm (Minor)

Here is the relative major.

Bb (Major)

Here they are with their dominant chords

D7 Gm
F7 Bb

Lets organise them like this.

lets put the major one first

The tune has the form AABAC

A is Major+Minor
B is Minor+Major
C is Minor plus Minor

Take each dominant and jump back one step in the cycle of fifths (ie D7 becomes Am7b5/D7, F7 becomes Cm F7).

When the progression follows along the cycle of fifths add chords to it from the cycle to fill the gaps if they fit. If they don't fit then use the dominant of the chord which follows the gap to fill the gap and give you an even one chord per bar stucture.

Minor, Am7b5 D7b5 Gm6 (G7b9)

Major, Cm7 F7 BbMaj7 EbMaj7

Thats nearly all but there is one other thing. In the C section which repeats the minor to get back to the Am7b5 from the Gm a chromatic move is often used (Gm,Gb7,Fm,E7)

.So what is really happening ? Well we want to get to Am7b5 from Gm and the chord which does that is E7, he Gbb7 is a tritone substitution for C7 which is the dominant of Fm which is the tritone of Bm7b5 which is the minor half of the dominant pair of Bm7b5/E7.

So here are those moves mapped out.

Gm to Am7b5

Gm E7 to ....
Gm Bm7b5 E7......
Gm C7 Bm7b5 E7.....
Gm7 Gb6 Bb7b5 E7...
Gm7 Gb6 Fm E7....

THE TRULY WONDERFUL AND AMAZING THING (LOOKING AT THAT LAST SET OF SEEMINGLY COMPLICATED TRANSFORMATIONS) IS YOUR BRAIN GETS THIS INTUITIVELY RIGHT AWAY WITHOUT A MOMENTS THOUGHT. When you play a solo you can take any of the routes from the six lines immediately above when choosing notes and SO LONG AS YOU PLAY MUSICALLY COHERENT PHRASES it will sound just great, in fact usually much better if you choose a different one from the rhythm section.

It would be a lot of work to sketch this out as it deserves so instead here is a youtube link to a playalong in the guitar friendly key of E minor

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 26 2015 23:30:37

guitarbuddha

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Here is a completely differnt way to come up with the A section.

Here is a minor blues typical of South American and Carribean tunes.

iv i V i

In the preferred key for Autumn Leaves Gm

Cm Gm D7 Gm

As the tune demonstrates the minor and relative major are pretty much interchangeable in jazz. So lets do that.

Cm Bb D7 Gm

Now at two bars per chord that might not give a soloist enough ear candy for inspiration so
Put a chord from the cycle of fifths between each

Cm F7 Bb Eb Am7b5 D7 Gm (G7 to get back)

There are other ways to look at this.

A soloist in jazz is expected to choose alternative changes even when the band are playing completely differently in order to make his solo sound like Jazz and not classical music. In classical music the melodic material is always in agreement with the chord sequence NOT the case in jazz, only bad jazz books.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 26 2015 23:38:39

estebanana

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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Dudnote

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

wow, you really did it, nice one GB!!! Thankyou!!!

It's my daughter's birthday today, so I'm wonderring how far the foro jazz men could go riping up Happy Birthday?

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 20:26:32

Dudnote

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to estebanana)

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Ricardo

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

my approach to the chromatic move in your "c section" is, thinking modally, the relation between G dorian and F# phyrgian dom...the tritone location is the same, so one could exploit that (Bb-E relation) to cover both chords, then it's the same a whole step down. But tha's flamenco fusion for ya.

trying your examples, I am hearing some pretty nasty dissonances with things like implied modes of Bm7b5, C7 (still works as tritone sub), or Bb7b5 in that spot.

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 20:38:55

guitarbuddha

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to Dudnote)

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ORIGINAL: Dudnote

It's my daughter's birthday today, so I'm wonderring how far the foro jazz men could go riping up Happy Birthday?

TOO FAR, of course.

Here it is as a lullaby !!

It may be past her bedtime but I am sure you can improvise a campfire. (my falsetto is just as bad as I claim)

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 20:43:21

guitarbuddha

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to Ricardo)

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ORIGINAL: Ricardo

my approach to the chromatic move in your "c section" is, thinking modally, the relation between G dorian and F# phyrgian dom...the tritone location is the same, so one could exploit that (Bb-E relation) to cover both chords, then it's the same a whole step down. But tha's flamenco fusion for ya.

Cool, I'll give it a try.

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 20:47:02

Leñador

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

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Here it is as a lullaby !!

It may be past her bedtime but I am sure you can improvise a campfire. (my falsetto is just as bad as I claim)

Awwww que bonito!

Cool chords! I like the second one a little more I think....
Happy B-Day Dudnote daughter!

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 20:50:09

Dudnote

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

She likes it and prefers the second version too ~ muchas gracias to Guitarbuddha from a lego ice castle.

I usually play Happy Birthday por Alegrias, so great to have some new material to work with.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 21:19:57

guitarbuddha

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to Dudnote)

Glad she liked it, an Alegrias would have taken more than thirty seconds prep.... and I would have have to play in time.

What's her name and how old is she ?

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 21:23:18

Dudnote

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

She's Dudnita and she's 9 today

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 21:26:58

guitarbuddha

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to Dudnote)

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ORIGINAL: Dudnote

She's Dudnita

Just as I thought

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 21:32:56

Ricardo

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to Dudnote)

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ORIGINAL: Dudnote

wow, you really did it, nice one GB!!! Thankyou!!!

It's my daughter's birthday today, so I'm wonderring how far the foro jazz men could go riping up Happy Birthday?

Melody as normal in C major (starts on pick up G note) jaleo type compas:

Happy
Birthday to (C9#11.....x32332)
you....happy (Bsus(b9)....x24500)
birthday to (E7#9....076780)
you....happy (Am9...575587)
birthday dear (Ab+...4x6550)
Dudnita, happy (Amaj7+/C#....x47664)
birthday to (C9#11...same as before)
you....(Bsus(b9)... same as before)
and many more... (Ebmaj7#11...x67786 or x11233)

cheers

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 22:02:45

guitarbuddha

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to Dudnote)

Por Alegria in E.

B7Happy
E6,birth,E7day to F#13you
F7#happy
F# minor birth B7day to Emaj7 you
D#7happy
G#7(+9)birth G#+(5)day C#m9 Dud Cm7 nita
C#7b13happy F#9 birth C7 day B7 to
Fmaj7 Ema7(add6add9) (youooohoo)

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 27 2015 23:06:38

chester

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

quote:

ORIGINAL: guitarbuddha

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dudnote

It's my daughter's birthday today, so I'm wonderring how far the foro jazz men could go riping up Happy Birthday?

TOO FAR, of course.

Here it is as a lullaby !!

It may be past her bedtime but I am sure you can improvise a campfire. (my falsetto is just as bad as I claim)

D.

GB that was nice man!

I wouldn't worry about the falsetto - it works!

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 28 2015 19:33:01

Dudnote

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to chester)

Hey guys, a hugh MUCHAS GRACIS for these jazzed up Happy Birthdays!!!

Tomorrow it's party day - there could well be some Ricardo and Guitarbuddha versions jammed around the barbeque in the evening.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 29 2015 1:25:02

Dudnote

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Amaj7+/C#....x47664

quote:

ORIGIANAL: guitarbuddha

quote:

ORIGINAL: Dudnote
It's my daughter's birthday today, so I'm wonderring how far the foro jazz men could go riping up Happy Birthday?

TOO FAR, of course.

Ricardo, that Amaj7+/C# is sick man, quite a challange to make it not sound like a mistake.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 31 2015 1:26:25

Dudnote

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to guitarbuddha)

Guitarbudda, how is G#+(5) different to G#? Do you mean to augment the 5th to a flat 6?

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Ricardo

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to Dudnote)

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ORIGINAL: Dudnote

Guitarbudda, how is G#+(5) different to G#? Do you mean to augment the 5th to a flat 6?

I agree that was a weird chord symbol...he could also mean you keep the natural 5 in the chord? In my head...because he is in "Alegria", the easier way to think of the chord (if there is or is not the natural 5th) is E+/G#....or Emaj7+....either way the B# is the thing.

Oh, and on my Amaj7+/C#...the extra cool thing is the vocal melody comes in on the B natural before going to A...so technically you can call it Amaj9+/C# for that first beat. Likewise the chord before it could be viewed as Abmaj7+...again because the voice goes up to G natural.

Ricardo

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REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 31 2015 3:12:13

guitarbuddha

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RE: Autumn Leaves (in reply to Dudnote)

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ORIGINAL: Dudnote

Guitarbudda, how is G#+(5) different to G#? Do you mean to augment the 5th to a flat 6?

Sorry Dudnote I am not exactly sure what I meant there.

G#7(+9)birth G#+(5)day C#m9 Dud Cm7 nita

This is the line though and the next chord is a Csharp so I probably meant Gsharp seven b13. Sorry I rushed to get the harmony out.

I thought this was light hearted..

D.

REPORT THIS POST AS INAPPROPRIATE | Date Mar. 31 2015 5:04:59